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TheWarrior
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posted 01-13-05 04:48 AM CT (US)         
Will there be Turks in AGE OF EMPIRES 3 , mates? Any asian civilizations ?

I think Ottoman Empire(Turks) must be in the game. It's a must i guess. Because after Battle with Byzantian Empire , It was the Raise of Ottoman Empire.

Please have a look at Ottoman Empire Borders at that time, its surprising. Europe(Greece) + Middleeast + Egypt + East .


[This message has been edited by TheWarrior (edited 02-04-2005 @ 11:49 AM).]

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NNY
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posted 01-13-05 09:49 AM CT (US)     1 / 35       
they're in the game, but you cant play as them in the demo.

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erikthered
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posted 01-13-05 11:01 AM CT (US)     2 / 35       
WHAT DEMO!
TheWarrior
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posted 01-13-05 05:15 PM CT (US)     3 / 35       
Are you Sure NNY ?
NNY
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posted 01-13-05 05:47 PM CT (US)     4 / 35       
no

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posted 01-13-05 05:48 PM CT (US)     5 / 35       
the demo's out?
erikthered
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posted 01-13-05 06:03 PM CT (US)     6 / 35       
THERES A FREKING DEMO NOW WHEN DIDNT I KNOW ABOUT THIS!

PS SOMEOME PULL MY LEG(:

WhoAskedU
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posted 01-13-05 06:14 PM CT (US)     7 / 35       
:: bell rings ::

Every time a bell rings an Angel gets his wings a rumor is born!

Seriously folks, Ensemble has never released a demo BEFORE the game was released. Every demo for Ensemble's games have been released after the game is in stores...


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erikthered
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posted 01-13-05 06:31 PM CT (US)     8 / 35       
who knows what they will do

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Barberousse
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posted 01-14-05 07:07 PM CT (US)     9 / 35       
They probably won't be in the game, they never did anything in the Americas. The Germans and Japanese never officially colonised it either, but they did send a lot of immigrants. So don't expect to see the Ottomans, except for a possible Africa/Asia expansion.
Mokon
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posted 01-15-05 10:58 AM CT (US)     10 / 35       
ROFL ROFL

that was funny...

my quess is that hes talking about AOK

thanx Mokon


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  • NNY
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    posted 01-15-05 01:27 PM CT (US)     11 / 35       
    no, i just said it to see what the OP would do. since there are so many people here who dont know how to read, and have no ****ing clue whats going on i thought id have a little fun at their expense.

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    Mechstra
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    posted 01-15-05 01:37 PM CT (US)     12 / 35       
    Yeah, plus they have the idea that games developers produce a demo of their games a good year before the likely release date.
    Aro
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    posted 01-15-05 01:37 PM CT (US)     13 / 35       
    There is no demo, and the only Asian civ in the game is the probably the Russians (the Ottomans are really not likely to be in the game). They will probably have a Samurai mercenary or something similar.

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    MZ
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    posted 01-15-05 02:22 PM CT (US)     14 / 35       

    Quote:

    There is no demo...


    Aro speaks the truth. In fact, I'm pretty sure the demos are released months after the games are released. So, sit tight.

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    TheWarrior
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    posted 01-15-05 04:52 PM CT (US)     15 / 35       
    Aro , it is the raise of Ottoman empire with gunpowder . :I hmmmm im thinking of what , if they do it for only the countries that sailed to america , then the game would be half , then there must be an expansion for the asia etc...

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    Gordon
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    posted 01-15-05 05:11 PM CT (US)     16 / 35       

    Quote:

    They will probably have a Samurai mercenary or something similar.


    That would be sooooooo inaccurate.

    I've been thinking about what they're going to do for the expansion, though. I had thought that it would be the colonies rebelling, but they have a whole thing about westward expansion in the game already, so they've already gotten to that time period. It may be possible that the expansion will instead include Asia in the same way the New World was included. Europe didn't just colonize the New World, but also Africa, Asia, and Australia.

    The same model of establishing trade, fighting against them, etc. that applied in "taking over" the New World could be applied to those others as well. Of course, the cultures and different forms of technological development would differ between each nation, so it would be quite an interesting change.

    PhoenixTRD
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    posted 01-15-05 07:13 PM CT (US)     17 / 35       
    So far they've announced the 'well, duh' civs as being:

    *British (to North American colonies, Canada, Australia, New Zealand, South Pacific Island groups, Papua-New Guinea, Burma, India, Ceylon, East Central & Southern Africa, the Carribean--various islands to include Jamaica, Trinidard & most of the Windward & Leeward Lesser Antilles, British Guiana, Belize, Bermuda, Bahamas, Mauritius, Hong Kong)

    *French (to Canada & the Mississippi Valley, North Central & West Africa--Sub Saharan, the Carribean--Haiti & various islands including Guadalupe and Martinique, French Guiana, French Oceana & New Caledonia, Cochin China-Indochina, Reunion)

    *Spanish (to South America except Brazil, Central America except Belize, Mexico to include Texas & California (also the areas of Nevada, Utah, Colorado & part of Wyoming), Florida, the Carribean--various islands including Cuba, Hispanola & Puerto Rico, The Phillipines, Marianas & Guam, Northwest African ports & Western Sahara, Canary Islands)

    Looking a bit more at world history then I see two more that cannot be ignored:

    *Dutch (to Dutch East Indies--Indonesia, New Amsterdam-Long Island, South Africa (Boers), the Carribean--Netherlands Antilles, Suriname-Dutch Guiana)

    *Portuguese (to Brazil, Southern Africa--Angola, Mozambique, Madagascar, India-Goa et al, Macao, Portuguese Timor, Cape Verde Islands, Madeira Islands, The Azores)

    And thinking on it just a tad more for their expannsion to the east:

    *Russians (east to Siberia then on east across the Bering Sea to Alaska then down the 'west coast' to Northern California north of San Francisco)

    Now, that'd be 6, all BIG players during the time-frame... and I'm doggoned if not hard-pressed to be thinking what the others might be.

    Other possible candidates (it seems to me) might be King Leopold's Belgium, Germany (but der Kaiser came kinda late) ?


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    Compa_Mighty
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    posted 01-15-05 08:19 PM CT (US)     18 / 35       
    I think the seven you mention are highly probable. As for the eighth one... well, there are a hell lot of German flags in the screenshots.

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    posted 01-17-05 09:56 AM CT (US)     19 / 35       
    Actually yeah, I think that would be a good idea. I don't think a strategy game should only have the best civs. I'm a AOE freak and I've always liked to play the weakest civs and see them grow and grow till they became superpowers! Consider adding some E. European countries, Especially from the Balkans. Greece, Bulgaria, Serbia, Romania, Ottoman Empire would be really cool to play. I hope you take my comment into consideration. I'd really love to see some of the civs I mentioned above, especially Greece and Turkey.
    NNY
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    posted 01-17-05 10:54 AM CT (US)     20 / 35       
    stop talking about the japanese, people. there arent going to be japanese in the game, no two ways about it. the drawing was there for no other reasons than either fill space or **** with our heads.

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    Barberousse
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    posted 01-18-05 06:48 PM CT (US)     21 / 35       

    Quote:

    Consider adding some E. European countries, Especially from the Balkans. Greece, Bulgaria, Serbia, Romania, Ottoman Empire would be really cool to play. I hope you take my comment into consideration. I'd really love to see some of the civs I mentioned above, especially Greece and Turkey.

    This is a game about the colonization of the Americas, even the Japanese would make more sense than all the countries you mentionned. The first of the Balkan countries to earn it's independance, Greece, go it in 1865 if I'm not mistaken. AOE III finishes in 1850.

    SpikeX
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    posted 01-18-05 07:55 PM CT (US)     22 / 35       

    Quote:

    The first of the Balkan countries to earn it's independance, Greece, go it in 1865 if I'm not mistaken.

    Greece declared indepence in 1821, but would not fit in the game at all. The rest of the countries on the list were recognized as independant countries in 1878 through the Congress of Berlin. Therefore do not fit in the timeline.

    The Ottoman Empire existed from about 1326 until after WWI but didn't even think of colonizing foreign lands.

    Quote:

    Japanese would make more sense than all the countries you mentionned.

    Not really. Japan emerged as an imperial power in the later half of 1850, but even then the main focus of the Japanese government was internal affairs.

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    PhoenixTRD's ideas are the civilizations we can expect to be in the game. The British, French, and Spainish are confirmed; the Dutch and Portuguese are as good as in; the Russians are a possibility along with the Germans(screenshots). I know nothing of Belgium.

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    CIHANHAKANI
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    posted 01-19-05 09:00 AM CT (US)     23 / 35       

    Quoted from spikex:

    The Ottoman Empire existed from about 1326 until after WWI but didn't even think of colonizing foreign lands.


    Ottoman Empire declared their independence in 1299. Before that they existed as a "county"/"duchy" under Selcuk rule. In 1923 the Empire reformed into the Republic of Turkey. They were one of the Strongest nations around 15th till 18th Century. Thats why im hoping theye somehow could make it iton AOE3 (ok they were never colonizers, but still i Would HOPE for it)
    SpikeX
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    posted 01-19-05 06:02 PM CT (US)     24 / 35       

    Quote:

    Ottoman Empire declared their independence in 1299. Before that they existed as a "county"/"duchy" under Selcuk rule. In 1923 the Empire reformed into the Republic of Turkey. They were one of the Strongest nations around 15th till 18th Century. Thats why im hoping theye somehow could make it iton AOE3 (ok they were never colonizers, but still i Would HOPE for it)

    Thanks for the correction regarding the specific date. I only said that the Ottomans wouldn't be in the game because they didn't colonize foriegn lands. I wanted the Ottomans to be in the game, but, unless they are in an expansion not completely based on colonization (which I'm really hoping for), it's unlikely.

    byzmaster
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    posted 01-22-05 02:24 AM CT (US)     25 / 35       
    What about the possibility of playing as a Native civilization? I realize that you may get to ally with AI-controlled tribes, but many of the more major Native cultures have had a large impact on colonization in North America (such as the Iroquois or Huron).

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