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TheWarrior
Squire
posted 01-13-05 04:48 AM CT (US)         
Will there be Turks in AGE OF EMPIRES 3 , mates? Any asian civilizations ?

I think Ottoman Empire(Turks) must be in the game. It's a must i guess. Because after Battle with Byzantian Empire , It was the Raise of Ottoman Empire.

Please have a look at Ottoman Empire Borders at that time, its surprising. Europe(Greece) + Middleeast + Egypt + East .


[This message has been edited by TheWarrior (edited 02-04-2005 @ 11:49 AM).]

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Nart_Saga
Squire
posted 01-23-05 12:36 PM CT (US)     26 / 35       
Ottoman Empire does not belong to a game about collanization of Americas.

Maybe expansion...

four hundred babies
Squire
(id: Lord_Fadawah)
posted 01-23-05 06:37 PM CT (US)     27 / 35       

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Ottoman Empire does not belong to a game about collanization of Americas.

I find it hard to believe that the game will be solely about the colonization of the Americas.

Nart_Saga
Squire
posted 01-25-05 05:19 AM CT (US)     28 / 35       
Well I understand that!

Hopefully a European Expansion (or the whole World)... :S

nuevointi
Squire
posted 01-27-05 00:45 AM CT (US)     29 / 35       
South America should have its own Revolutionary Army. Such Leaders as Simon Bolivar and General Ignacio Zaragoza Seguine both of whose ability to quickly organize peasant farms against the Spanish and the French are omitted. Just because these American leaders were liberators and not conquerors doesn't mean they should be excluded. And more importantly deny RTS gamers like me to joyously revel in their triumph over tyranny.

Maybe an Expansion pack like Conqueors versus Liberators.

-special units like the llaneros who masterd guerrilla cavalry warfare could be added
-consigned peasant workers should be added with bonus points for mele attacks

Moocher
Squire
posted 01-27-05 02:56 PM CT (US)     30 / 35       

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Seriously folks, Ensemble has never released a demo BEFORE the game was released

that's not true. The original AOe had a demo before it's release. AOE made me skeptical at first but I learned to love every aspect of it. AOK made things better. I still can't get into AOM for some reason. AOE3 will beat that I hope.

TheWarrior
Squire
posted 01-29-05 09:16 AM CT (US)     31 / 35       
Have a look at this link There is a Ottoman(Turkish) Janissary behind the ringmail-armoured Ottoman(Turkish) soldier. This is around after the end of medieval age.
http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/39643000/jpg/_39643781_ottoman_afp.jpg

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Esau
Squire
posted 01-29-05 10:25 AM CT (US)     32 / 35       
What are you really trying to say?

Because a man dressed in traditional Turkish clothes lookes a bit like a Janissary from a game, AOE III should include the Ottoman Empire?
Believe me, the Ottoman Empire has nothing to do in a game dealing with the American colonization...

Nice thing to know maybe, Jannisary's were mostly not Turkish/Ottoman/Osman or whatever you'd wanna call them.
As you know -enthusiast as you are about the Ottoman Empire- the Ottomans also conquered a large part of the Balkans (mostly former Yugoslavia) in Southeastern Europe. The story goes that Serbian childs were 'adopted'(torn away form their real parents, if they were still alive) by the Turks who raised these children with very radical Muslim methods becoming fierce soldiers, who had nothing to life for except their adopted religion.

TheWarrior
Squire
posted 01-29-05 11:14 AM CT (US)     33 / 35       

I'm trying to kindly say that : If they only focus on American conquest , All civils will be Europe and the multicivil selection option will be so narrow the civils will be very low amount in number . And if they do not include any asian civils or other , the game will be half. But as friends told in this forum , maybe they will be in expansion.
What did you understand from my last reply?I just sent a photo of the Reneissans time(after medieval).

Nice thing to know that , every Empire had different war Strategy . At least jannisarries were not used as slaves.

Esau
Squire
posted 01-29-05 12:46 PM CT (US)     34 / 35       
I'm sorry for the offensive tone, it wasn't my intention to sound rude.

I took that picture as a argument of you that the Ottomans... ahh forget it, it isn't a disussion worthy.
Misunderstood is the best word for it.

I agree with you that, if there won't be other civ's than the European playable, the game could get a bit one-sided, but I'm sure ES will do there best to create lots of difference between the colonists.
And I do understand that people who had high expectations about civ's being in the game that probably will be left out of it are a bit dissapointed.
For myself, I am Dutch and was relieved that the Netherlands (almost sure) will be in the game, but then again, I was also dissapointed that they were left out in other games, it's a small country you know.

But, what the hell, why won't the Ottomans or an Asian civ be in the game? Only three civilizations had been announced, and nothing is totally clear until ES has announced all the civ's... it's just guessing what we're doing now

TheWarrior
Squire
posted 01-29-05 08:19 PM CT (US)     35 / 35       
Esau,its ok
But i would like to point out something about Janissaries by giving an example "Mimar Sinan was raised as a Janissary , Became an Unbelievable ELITE Architecture and he made Wonders during OttomanEmpire Times,he was a Royal man with a janissary history" There are more examples that shows how The empire treated people with regard and love. But im not the History Specialist, i just read these from books. But Torning children from families is very heart-breaking and wrong though ,i agree on that : It's like taking a bird from its family and putting it in a Golden case


Take care..
Regards

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