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Topic Subject:machineguns, aerial warfare & ironclads?
Ikki
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posted 01-08-05 02:44 PM CT (US)         
Would certainly make a huge difference on the battlefield.

Granted, aerial didnt go much beyond balloons at this time.. but there is ever so slight a chance for german zeppeliners

Ironclads should be able to sink a whole fleet of earlier ships, on their own.

machineguns, spraying bullets of death at an unbelievable rate, wiping out any ability to advance infantry (or cavalry ) into that fire. The perfect defence.


And while we are at it, why not ballons with machineguns installed? I bet those would be awesome units.

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Talon Karrde
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posted 01-08-05 02:49 PM CT (US)     1 / 12       
I'm fairly sure they will not make it into aoe3. simply 'cause rapid fire weapons (the gatling gun) only came around at the end of the time aoe3 will occupy, so a very small chance of that. aerial combat? between balloons? hah
and ironclads...same as the gatling gun, really.

Bah.
Ikki
Squire
posted 01-08-05 02:52 PM CT (US)     2 / 12       
I was hoping for balloons that could wipe out land armies.. and atleast sword guys wouldnt have a chance of firing back.

Excellent for holding places... and finding & destroying indian warbands. Even when thse are hiding on top of cliffs.

Cheruscan
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posted 01-08-05 02:57 PM CT (US)     3 / 12       
Leave that stuff for the MOD pack makers!

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MW
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(id: Medieval Warfare)
posted 01-08-05 03:24 PM CT (US)     4 / 12       
AoE III: Expansion or possibly AoE IV.

-MW

WhoAskedU
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posted 01-08-05 03:51 PM CT (US)     5 / 12       
Gattling Guns didn't come around until 1860-1870s...The game ends around 1850...maybe thats why ES set the time period to end then?

As for Balloons, I would expect one unique unit to be a Balloon...maybe Germans? IT would only be a scout...or maybe throw rocks at the units.

Ironclads would be a Unique unit for the Americans, probably in the Xpack (remember Monitor vs Merrimac?)


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Ikki
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posted 01-08-05 05:11 PM CT (US)     6 / 12       
For balloons, more like a french special unit

1862 was the first handoperated gatling. 1865 saw the first where recoil fed the next bullet.

SpikeX
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posted 01-08-05 05:12 PM CT (US)     7 / 12       
Both the ironclad and the gatling gun were invented and patented in 1861 and 1862, respectively, so either or both of them could be in an expansion pack. The ironclad was much more widely used than the gatling gun, so if one of them was to be made a unit in the expansion pack, I'd say the ironclad is the obvious choice.

I doubt that either unit would appear except possibly in the expansion, although if the game + expansion continues through the American Civil War at least one of the units would be needed.

Quote:

(remember Monitor vs Merrimac?)

- That battle occured in 1862, I believe, so the 1850's cut off point kills the ideas for both units (gatling gun and ironclad).

NoxMortus
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posted 01-09-05 10:37 AM CT (US)     8 / 12       
We might very well see the emergence of the submarine in AOE3. Submarines first military conflict was in the war of independence or american revolution (or whatever you wish to call it). Well within the time period. Maybe we shall see some underwater action? Only time will tell.
LetsGoPens
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posted 01-09-05 07:13 PM CT (US)     9 / 12       
I doubt any of these proposed units will make appearances in this game. Perhaps in the expansion as unique units. They would just be too high-tech, unless they're dumbed down and made less efficient. We all know an ironclad would decimate an entire fleet of wooden galleons.
WhoAskedU
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posted 01-10-05 03:02 PM CT (US)     10 / 12       

Quoted from SpikeX:

That battle occured in 1862, I believe, so the 1850's cut off point kills the ideas for both units (gatling gun and ironclad).

You didn't read the sentence BEFORE my quote, did you?

Quoted from ME:

Ironclads would be a Unique unit for the Americans, probably in the Xpack


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UnsungHero
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posted 01-10-05 04:37 PM CT (US)     11 / 12       
ironclads as a unique unit for America is historically inaccurate. the Confederate and United states got their ideas for ironclads from the Europeans; at the time of Confederate ironclads (Virginia and Mississippi are the most famous) France and England both already had one. if anything America should have as a unique unit the Moniter class ironclad as it was a true American design.
Gamer man
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posted 01-10-05 05:05 PM CT (US)     12 / 12       
First off the gattling gun did not play a major role in any war. They were excessivly expensive, had accuracy that made them useless at more than 50 yards, they constantly jammed, and the shots were low velocity shots and usually didn't kill a person even if shot (durring an era when a musket shot to the leg usually meant death.). 2nd, they never saw action even in the civil war, the war they were made for. Wait for WW1 to use a machine gun.

2nd, zepplans never saw warfare outside of europe

and 3rd the ironclad was invented by the french in 1855, then the british built 2 in 1856. Both had to be towed into location.

The first self propelled ones were again by the french, followed by the british in 1859. The Americans paid french designers to work on their ironclads even. and the battle between american ironclads was unimportant. Not until 1864 could you say Ironclads made a difference (spain vs. austria/hungry). So for them, no, not in this game. However maybe in an X-pack


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