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sorry_sir
Banned
posted 01-12-05 07:25 PM CT (US)         
So the other day my friend game me Age of Mythology for a small fee of $7.00. I installed it on my computer and to my surprise got this: http://img140.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img140&image=ageofmythology4ig.jpg!!

I am very angry but what do I need to do to not get this error on AoE3? I'm looking forward to it and I don't want to not play it because of my graphics card/video card, w/e.

I have 512 MB memory, 160 GB hard drive space, and 2.16 GHz.

Plz someone explain how I can fix this problem.

THX in advance.

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Genghiz_Khan
Squire
posted 01-12-05 07:31 PM CT (US)     1 / 15       
What card do you have? By the way, is there an "s" key on your keyboard?

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sorry_sir
Banned
posted 01-12-05 07:39 PM CT (US)     2 / 15       

Quote:

Sound and Graphics
The SR1030NX features audio and video cards that are integrated into the computer's main board. The sound card uses the AC'97 (Audio Codec '97) standard (configurable to 6 channels of audio). The video/graphics card has up to 64 MB of shared video memory. It is suitable for good range of gaming graphics and multimedia video playback, but might not stack up for ultra-realistic 3-D PC games.


Yes, I do have an "S" key on my keyboard, how else did I get the S's on my name?

Bajamba
Squire
posted 01-12-05 07:47 PM CT (US)     3 / 15       

Quote:

The video/graphics card has up to 64 MB of shared video memory.

64 MB of video memory is terrible. You need at the very least 128 probably 256 in my opinion. But seeing how that is a compaq (right?) you may not be able to buy a better video card for it because of their proprietary format in there, but I'm not to sure.

An ATI Radeon X800 would be nice though


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sorry_sir
Banned
posted 01-12-05 07:52 PM CT (US)     4 / 15       

Quote:

64 MB of video memory is terrible. You need at the very least 128 probably 256 in my opinion. But seeing how that is a compaq (right?) you may not be able to buy a better video card for it because of their proprietary format in there, but I'm not to sure.

An ATI Radeon X800 would be nice though

oh okay, thanks. But are you sure 256 mb video card would be compatible with my computer?


edit: yes, you're right it's compaq.

[This message has been edited by sorry_sir (edited 01-12-2005 @ 07:53 PM).]

Elpea
Hal
(id: lp_usa)
posted 01-12-05 08:24 PM CT (US)     5 / 15       
You need a stand alone video card (not an integrated one), video cards to play AoM are relatively cheap, and are as low as 80 dollars.

http://newegg.com- you should look there.


sorry_sir
Banned
posted 01-12-05 09:27 PM CT (US)     6 / 15       

Quote:

You need a stand alone video card (not an integrated one), video cards to play AoM are relatively cheap, and are as low as 80 dollars.

Huh? I don't follow, sorry. Can you find me a stand alone one that you are sure it will play age of empires 3? You don't have to if you don't want.

Can anyone help me find one? like in bestbuy.com or something?

Elpea
Hal
(id: lp_usa)
posted 01-12-05 09:45 PM CT (US)     7 / 15       
Basicly, you need to buy a video card, and install it, simple

erikthered
Squire
posted 01-12-05 09:51 PM CT (US)     8 / 15       
i need a new comp myself lol im think and alien ware for

1"200
the cheapest would hold aoe3
i know
and i have a intel inside celeron a600y hp

Newbie
Squire
posted 01-12-05 11:51 PM CT (US)     9 / 15       
I have played AOM on a computer with an integrayed video card that had only 32MB of video memory with no difficulty at all.

The game actually played on my P3 500 with 256 MB of 100Mhz SDRAM and an 8MB NVidia Vanta Video Card and was certainly playable. However, you should definitely have more than 8 MB of video memory. I would say at least 16MB.

[This message has been edited by Newbie (edited 01-12-2005 @ 11:52 PM).]

Scholar
Squire
posted 01-13-05 03:18 AM CT (US)     10 / 15       
...your computer specs are fine..your processor speed at 2.16 gherts is plenty fast enough and your 512 ram is good, your hard drive is 160, lots of space probably left....YOU DO NEED A VIDEO CARD...thats all....don't buy a 64 card, buy at least a 128, that way you won't have to replace it in a short period of time...integrated video cards are like that lousy piece of cheap gum thats a throw in with baseball or hockey cards...go buy some real gum
WH_demoneyekyo
Squire
posted 01-13-05 01:44 PM CT (US)     11 / 15       
i assume u buy ur pc as a package such as HP,dell, etc.
hence.ur screw!!!!!!!!!!
those pc won't allow for upgrading....is freakin almost impossibe (they make it so damn small, ur pc can barely breath).
those pc are a piece shit even considering u have fast cpu or a 160 gig HD( typcial atm.....since its so dman cheap)
might as well. sell it to someone n go to buy ur pc at a Retail store (which mean don't go to futureshop,londondrup,a&b sound,etc)

atm....most game hardly ever require more then 2.2 ghz. it mainly depend on VC (videocard). if u plan on doing gaming only...go with Radeon (fsatest in the world). if u plan to do some video encoding stuff.go with Gforce (nvidia.the other main brand).

try n wait till feb to buy ur VC (u might need a new sound card too) it tend to be cheaper at that time. since like a new vc usaully come out every 6 month, when a new one come out.the old one will be cheap.....but its still rock!

sorry_sir
Banned
posted 01-13-05 05:35 PM CT (US)     12 / 15       
oh man, thx for help guys; so now i wil have to replace my piece of shit card. oh well; goodbye


btw: i have an AGP card slot; does that have anything to do with anything?

wal2rior
Squire
posted 01-13-05 06:52 PM CT (US)     13 / 15       
@Bajamba
Please dont post when you have no idea of what your saying...
Let me get this straight so that people wont be tricked by this "cards with highest memory are best " thing.
64 MB of VRAM isnt "terrible", its true that it might not be that great in the future, but for right now its still enough. Im tired of seeing these topics of people saying "you need atleast 128, or get 256". Having more Vram when needed is good, but rating cards based on there memory size is just plain stupid. A 64 MB radeon 9500 pro can run Half life 2 like a hot knife being driven through butter.
First of all try reinstalling your Video card drivers. Because a 64 MB (even onboard) can run AOM with ease, because my 8MB rage 128 pro did it. High Vram sizes are a marketing gimick to trick noobs into buying there cards, there are FX 5200s with 256 MB of ram and most 9800 pros have 128 MB, but which is faster? The 9800 PRo RAPES THE H*ll outa FX 5200. Saying High memory cards are the best is like saying a Pentium 1 at 100 MHz and 1GB memory can beat a P4 3.8 GHz(570J) with only 256 MB of ram.

List the following:
Motherboard with model
Video card (give me the name not its Vram size)

Another thing NEVER BUY a alienware(Other anyother prebuilt system from companys like compaq, dell etc), they are horribly over priced. I could build the same system of nearly any alienware for 200-500 Dollars cheaper! Trust me iv been building computers for a LONG time and I know. Its best to build your own. Its really not as hard as you think.

Now if you want to upgrade your computer I reccomend buying a new graphic card. Either a Radeon 9800 PRo 128 MB for about 180 or a 6600 GT agp 128 MB for 220. If you cant afford either of those, than go for a Radeon 9600 XT(PRETTY desent cards too). BTW check your motherboard to see if you have an 8X AGP and not 4X, 4x you can still run ok...but not as good. Assuming you get atleast a 9600 XT 128, added to your current system, AOE 3 should run Well with most eye candy on. Age of Empires 3 will certainly not be more intensive than HL2 which my Radeon 9800 Pro rans at 80-140 FPs even on 1280X1024 ALL MAXED (FULL EYE CANDY)OUT 4X AA 4X AF.

Sorry for the harsh tone, no offensive was intended. I just wanted to get my point clear. (High Vram isnt always good)

[This message has been edited by wal2rior (edited 01-13-2005 @ 06:53 PM).]

Silk
Cavalier
(id: LordThom)
posted 01-14-05 00:05 AM CT (US)     14 / 15       
What he said ^^^^

Except a few things. A 256 Mb card will almost always beat a 128 card, IF they are both running at the same clockspeed and Card-to-CPU bandwidths. It is true that some 128 cards do beat some 256 cards.

And like he said, wait a bit, and then get something cheaper.

At the moment, if you're looking for something really up-market, go with the new Radeon cards. They beat or equal nVidia's at all but the highest screen sizes. If you're going for something a little lower on the market, I think PC User recomends the Geforce 5500 as the best low priced card. Don't expect to run Doom 3 on it though.

If you wait until they release AoE3 and then pick up a reasonable card, you'll be set for about two years. That's probably what I'll be doing, cause by 2006 there will probably be this engine out (pic on the right,) and that's gonna woop the crap outa the D3 and HL2 engines.

And by looking at the specs for that computer, I'd say your graphics card should easilly be able to run AoM, so update your drivers and check sites to make sure that your card is actually supported by AoM. I had a similar problem with Deus Ex 2, which only supports recent nVidia/ATi Cards, but I could run AoM on a crappy integrated 48 mb intel card no probs, so yeah...


Silk
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[This message has been edited by Silk (edited 01-14-2005 @ 00:11 AM).]

David
HG Alumnus
posted 01-14-05 03:35 AM CT (US)     15 / 15       
We already got the name of the graphics card from the image, S3G. A card, I believe, which is not supported by AoM, although that might be more easily answered over at AoMH.

If you want a new card for AoE3, go with nVidia, since then you get Pixel Shader 3.0 support, which ATI doesn't have (full). Also, the more memory on the graphics card the higher resolutions you'll be able to play without lag, but it's not the most important thing on the card.

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