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Topic Subject:Question concerning Leif Eriksons journey.
Dave3377
Squire
posted 04-10-03 03:15 PM CT (US)         
If Leif Erikson entered the new world, then shouldn't we see evidence for a virgin soil epidemic around that time?

We do after Columbus came, and PERHAPS the Natives would have lost any resistence to Eurpoean diseaeses in the time span between the two. But still there should be evidence for this correct?

The only other possibility is that he never encounter Native peole and thus never transmitted the diseases to the Native population.

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Tanneur99
HG Alumnus
posted 04-10-03 04:10 PM CT (US)     1 / 4       
He had contact, the Vikings gave the colony up because of fierce fighting with the natives. Also the Viking colony was local, a settlement only.

Maybe this review of mine helps.

http://aok.heavengames.com/blacksmith/reviews/single/1500.shtml

Edit: The text concerning Leif is under OBSERVATIONS.

[This message has been edited by Tanneur99 (edited 04-10-2003 @ 04:12 PM).]

Dave3377
Squire
posted 04-10-03 04:36 PM CT (US)     2 / 4       
cool. I'd still like to know if there was a virgin soil epidemic in the years to follow.

If not, then why? Certainly vikings whom likely slept in the same rooms as their beasts of burden would have contracted diseases (wich start out in animals and then mutate into a strand which effects humans) which they would have to develope an imunity to to survive infantcy. Not having this evolutionary history of such disease resistance, the native population should have been decimated by the diseases. As they were shortly after columbus arived.

Night_Warrior
Guest
posted 04-10-03 08:08 PM CT (US)     3 / 4       
There was supposedly fighting with the natives. Does anyone know for sure if it was with the natives of Newfoundland or Labrador? Recent discoveries show the vikings landed in Labrador first.

Evidence that shows that they were in Labrador first was found 200 km north of me in Cartwright, Labrador. The "famous" place they supposedly landed was Lanse Aux Meadows, Newfoundland.

I am a decendent of the natives that were in Labrador (I am one thirty-second Inuit).

Just thought I'd mention this.

Tanneur99
HG Alumnus
posted 04-11-03 01:43 AM CT (US)     4 / 4       
I ignore if there was a virgin soil epidemic and fear that even if there was we will not find any records. This for two reasons, the natives did not write anything and the Vikings stayed two to three years in their settlement, until they gave up, because of unfriendly contacts. I doubt that contacts got any closer than killing each other. There are no records about Leif's people fighting during his journey, he first landed north probably New Foundland and the journey took him furthest down, as far as today's New York. He went ashore a couple of times in different regions. It is not known yet were the later settlement was.

Leif was sent by his father Eric the Red to find fertile soil to settle, as he was banned in Scandinavia and Iceland for manslaughter. His finding, Greenland, a name he gave to attract others was not really that green as the name might have suggested.

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