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VIP (Reverie World Studios)
(id: MeGaIdIoT)
posted 09-03-08 09:10 PM CT (US)         
http://google.com/chrome/

Anyone tried it? I like it. It has a few beta quirks, but adds some really nice features. Also, it's loading time for pages is about twice as fast as Firefox for me.

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sly_guy
Squire
posted 09-03-08 09:30 PM CT (US)     1 / 22       
It looks nice, but I didn't notice any major speed increases.

I'll stick with Firefox (purely because it's what I'm used to), but if Chrome gets even better, I may switch.

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four hundred babies
Squire
(id: Lord_Fadawah)
posted 09-03-08 10:03 PM CT (US)     2 / 22       
Is this a smart move for Google? The reason people switched from IE to Firefox is IE wasn't doing what they needed. But now we have a rock-solid internet browser, so I'm not sure why Google thinks we're going to switch it for theirs.
four hundred babies
Squire
(id: Lord_Fadawah)
posted 09-03-08 11:05 PM CT (US)     3 / 22       
I actually checked it out now. Cross-posted from my blog:

My reactions to Google’s new browser…

…are good. It’s very fast. Pages load almost instantly now, and there’s no lag in switching between tabs a la Firefox. Even the Damocles Sword known as “Myspace” is pretty snappy.

The layout insanely minimalist. You have a UI that’s about 80 pixels high, a scrollbar down the side, and the rest of the screen is content. There’s no useless status bar down the bottom of the screen, either.

Unlike most programs, it doesn’t sacrifice functionality to obtain minimalism. Everything’s right where you need it, 1-2 clicks away. This is a relief, as there are many browsers out there that were obviously designed by graphic designers with no regard to how the program would actually be used.

Some stuff I’m used to seems to be missing. How do I view a page’s source? Maybe the feature exists, but I can’t seem to find it. Other than that, my only reservation is that Chrome seems to ignore my middle mouse button (which I use a lot), but it’s a beta so I’m not going crazy about it.
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VIP (Reverie World Studios)
(id: MeGaIdIoT)
posted 09-03-08 11:08 PM CT (US)     4 / 22       
View the source by right clicking and pressing 'Inspect Element'.

I'm sure they'll add middle mouse button stuff, it's an obvious bug.


Oh and the new tab page is really nice. Gives you your 9 most visited recent sites to go to.

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Aro
AoKH Dictator
posted 09-03-08 11:42 PM CT (US)     5 / 22       
They're becoming competitors with Firefox?!?

Never checked it out, but I hope it's Firefox-ish in how it interprets HTML, or I'm going to have to work AoKH's new layout with yet another freaking browser to make sure it all works.

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morgoth bauglir
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posted 09-04-08 01:01 AM CT (US)     6 / 22       
People have LAG with FIREFOX!?!??!?!

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four hundred babies
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(id: Lord_Fadawah)
posted 09-04-08 02:52 AM CT (US)     7 / 22       
People have LAG with FIREFOX!?!??!?!
You might not notice it if you have a phat computer, but Firefox actually uses a lot of memory. I can prove it:

Bringing it up the Task Manager, it says Firefox.exe uses about 108,000k of memory. On the other hand, Chrome.exe uses about 7,000k of memory. The exact numbers may vary, but Chrome is much more efficient.

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morgoth bauglir
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posted 09-04-08 03:23 AM CT (US)     8 / 22       
Currently FF uses 32k kb of me memory, which is a healthy amount. Since my RAM is 1GB + 2GB from HDD, I don't notice it.

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Gwame
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posted 09-04-08 12:07 PM CT (US)     9 / 22       
For me, Firefox eats up between 40,000k and 140,000k of memory. It's only been happening since I upgraded to FF3, which is strange considering all the claims that 3 actually reduced memory usage.

I'm about to download Chrome now. I tried to do it the other day, but the Chrome website just brought me to Google search. Works now...

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sly_guy
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posted 09-04-08 12:19 PM CT (US)     10 / 22       
I've got Chrome running at around 10K kb, and FF (3) at about 60K kb.

And I've decided to use Chrome for my university's online stuff, since it's much quicker than FireFox.

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Gwame
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posted 09-04-08 12:25 PM CT (US)     11 / 22       
I just installed Chrome and it's using up around 45,000k, which is still better than Firefox. It wouldn't complete installation by the way. During the import bookmarks and login data process, nothing happened. It just stayed on that "Chrome will now... blah blah" box. I had to stop and start Chrome a few times before it worked. Now that I'm using it, I find it's a lot like Firefox, but with less of a GUI. It also freezes less when running things such as Java, Gmail, etc.

Edit: Maybe scratch that last point. I just tried to play a YouTube video, it worked for a second or two and then Chrome froze completely. And when I was terminating the processes, I noticed that each tab gets its own instance, but if you end one, they all disappear.

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four hundred babies
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(id: Lord_Fadawah)
posted 09-04-08 06:40 PM CT (US)     12 / 22       
I'm liking this new browser more and more. There are lots of small details, like how forms are highlighted when you're typing something into them.
Edit: Maybe scratch that last point. I just tried to play a YouTube video, it worked for a second or two and then Chrome froze completely. And when I was terminating the processes, I noticed that each tab gets its own instance, but if you end one, they all disappear.
It seems to be...funny with flash. I'm sure they'll fix it soon.
KayanZ
Squire
(id: ZayanK)
posted 09-04-08 07:35 PM CT (US)     13 / 22       
Firefox eats a lot of my ram.

Let's give a chance to Google monopoly.

EDIT Damn, it's fast!

[This message has been edited by ZayanK (edited 09-04-2008 @ 07:54 PM).]

Jatayu
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posted 09-05-08 08:21 AM CT (US)     14 / 22       
Aokh looks totally weird in this.

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Gwame
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posted 09-06-08 08:41 PM CT (US)     15 / 22       
It's strange how YouTube 'splodes Chrome, since Google own YouTube. You'd think they'd have made it compatible before releasing it, especially considering how popular YouTube is.

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Jatayu
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posted 09-06-08 10:46 PM CT (US)     16 / 22       
Eh, it's a beta. I'm sure the final version will be a lot better, but I'm not switching from firefox.

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Murloc
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posted 09-07-08 08:48 AM CT (US)     17 / 22       
it's a beta, there are many errors.

maybe I'll try it in the first release version, because my computer got 768mb of ram and a pentium m 1,1ghz, so it maybe pretty useful.
Aro
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posted 09-07-08 07:09 PM CT (US)     18 / 22       
I'm liking it better than FireFox so far, although I have no problems viewing videos (as I never look at videos with my 56k-self). There appears to be no major mistranslations in how it interprets HTML. Reminds me a lot of Firefox.

I'm still going to stick with Opera, of course....

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Gwame
Squire
posted 09-07-08 09:07 PM CT (US)     19 / 22       
Reminds me a lot of Firefox.
I already said that. Hmph.

I'm going to try Opera, since I've already tried Firefox, IE, Netscape, Safari and Chrome. Oh and RealPlayer, which has a replica of IE built into it.

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four hundred babies
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(id: Lord_Fadawah)
posted 09-07-08 10:41 PM CT (US)     20 / 22       
Is Opera better than Firefox? I used it for a while, but nothing really stood out as mind-blowing.
RMS29
Squire
posted 09-08-08 02:09 AM CT (US)     21 / 22       
Firefox is not rock solid! Far, far from it.

Chrome's big thing is each process is its own executable. Notice: if you open up 3 tabs, there will be (I think) 4 chrome.exe's when you check Task Manager.

So when one tab scrums up, the rest of them are fine, and that one tab gets an unhappy face (try it - delete one of the chrome.exe's while running multiple tabs).

It's probably what we can expect to see in the future. I think IE8 does something similar, but not as robust. By the way, I think chrome is supposed to be more resource intensive than Firefox. It's a browser model for the future - so not all unexpected.

So chrome will hopefully lend a stability that Firefox doesn't have.

Now, with regards to all the browsers people are naming, one key difference is the rendering engine they use to display web pages.

Microsoft uses its own rendering engine.

So does Opera. Opera's has historically been one of if not the most standards compliant rendering engines out there. It was the first to pass Acid2.

Firefox, Netscape 6+, Mozilla Browser, and a bunch of others use the Gecko rendering engine.

Google Chrome uses the Webkit rendering engine, shared by Konqueror and Safari. Also very standards compliant. To date, I believe only Opera and Webkit pass the Acid2 test to date. Webkit has also raced ahead of Opera to pass the Acid3 test (these are tests for CSS compliance).

I think this is a concept browser, mostly. It'll certainly have an impact on the browser market, but of course it's not a complete product. I wonder where Google will go with it.

One thing is that Google is not your typical software company with a stable product cycle, so don't hold your breath for its "final release version." This is the release. For example, is Google Mail out of beta yet? Nope...

[This message has been edited by RMS29 (edited 09-08-2008 @ 02:13 AM).]

Gwame
Squire
posted 09-08-08 08:47 AM CT (US)     22 / 22       
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MY NAME IS GWAME I AM AOKH MEMBER SINCE 2004 AND I HAVE MANY POSTS
BEST SIG OF 2008 AND 2ND BEST SIG OF 2009 (SAME SIG LOLOL)
BEST SIG OF 2008
92% of teenagers have moved on to rap music. If you're on of the 8% that still listens to real music, copy this into your signature.
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