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Hailstorm65
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posted 09-11-08 06:03 PM CT (US)         
Yes it is the 11th of September and no terrorist attack has happened. I am just wondering what you guys think of this and were any of you expecting anything today?

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General_Zavier
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posted 09-11-08 06:07 PM CT (US)     1 / 66       
Um...no? Were you?

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Hailstorm65
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posted 09-11-08 06:39 PM CT (US)     2 / 66       
I was somewhat expecting something to happen as it would be a Happy-Day for American hating terrorists.

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posted 09-11-08 06:39 PM CT (US)     3 / 66       
there wasn't one last year on 9/11, or the year before, or the year before, etc

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posted 09-11-08 06:46 PM CT (US)     4 / 66       
It's also a month until my birthday, and nothing has happened.

I think most people have moved on.
Jatayu
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posted 09-11-08 11:17 PM CT (US)     5 / 66       
I think most people have moved on.
I don't understand this sentiment at all. When was the last time a few thousand people were killed on the American homeland? Why should people, especially Americans try to forget?

I was in NY a few months back, and paid a visit to ground zero. The sight was unnerving- high buildings all around it and a massive gap with nothing there.

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Surge
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posted 09-12-08 06:10 AM CT (US)     6 / 66       
As long as all this 9/11 stuff stays in America, I don't care.

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Ilmarinen
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posted 09-12-08 06:41 AM CT (US)     7 / 66       
Amen

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Evil Tailor
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posted 09-12-08 06:58 AM CT (US)     8 / 66       
Man, 9/11 is old hat. Terrible stuff has happened -- A FRIGGIN LOT of terrible stuff has happened since 9 September 2001 but no, nobody gives a toss as long as Americans have their patriot cakes. World is so full of shit when yet the shit hits the United States it's more noteworthy even after seven years? I wouldn't deny the families of those who've lost dear ones the right to mourn even if I could, it's their business, not ours. Okay it was terrible but people LIVE in more horrifying conditions all the time than how those people died.

Okay it's okay to remember those who died but expecting the date to be somehow cursed like this...? Umm, that'd show lack of imagination from the terrorists' part.

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morgoth bauglir
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posted 09-12-08 07:48 AM CT (US)     9 / 66       
Do every 7th december result in a war?

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posted 09-12-08 07:56 AM CT (US)     10 / 66       
I think that the clearest sign of terrorists' victory is that every 11th September Americans are scared.

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Murloc
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posted 09-12-08 09:47 AM CT (US)     11 / 66       
I didn't exept anything....
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posted 09-12-08 10:28 AM CT (US)     12 / 66       
I didn't exept anything....
Location: Switzerland
Well of course, you as a Helvetian have not bothered anybody in eons and you are a beacon of neutrality. Who on earth would launch a terrorist attack against the land of Peace and Chocolate?

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‘Twill be a sad day I say.

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Lord Fenris
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posted 09-12-08 10:42 AM CT (US)     13 / 66       
MSN died for a few hours in the evening. That's about all.
Silk
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posted 09-12-08 11:11 AM CT (US)     14 / 66       
9/11 is undoubtedly a sad day for those who lost someone, but the rest of you really need to get over it. If 3000 people died in floods in Bangladesh, or an earthquake in Peru, or a conflict in Africa, it wouldn't even make the news the next week, let alone be remembered by the world the next year. Heck, the very war you started to stop the guys who did it has caused far more innocent deaths than the event itself.

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Murloc
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posted 09-12-08 01:01 PM CT (US)     15 / 66       
we have got some nationalists here too, and they say bad things, so there's a little risk.
very little anyway, we keep out from UE and we keep our neutrality.
NeverFinished
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posted 09-12-08 03:18 PM CT (US)     16 / 66       
I had my student ID picture taken on september 11...I thought it would have been pretty funny to have the towers falling as the backround...

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posted 09-12-08 03:21 PM CT (US)     17 / 66       
MSN died for a few hours in the evening. That's about all.
So! Terrorism threatens our IM!

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General_II
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posted 09-12-08 10:03 PM CT (US)     18 / 66       
Ah, the US: home of "you guys" and "them" and, on popular occasions "the man."
AnastasiaKafka
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posted 09-13-08 10:53 AM CT (US)     19 / 66       
I find it interesting that person from another country posted this topic. Perhaps that is why it hasn't been closed. However, for myself, and perhaps for many other Americans here, the subject is too serious to want discuss in this setting.
I don't understand this sentiment at all. When was the last time a few thousand people were killed on the American homeland? Why should people, especially Americans try to forget?

I was in NY a few months back, and paid a visit to ground zero. The sight was unnerving- high buildings all around it and a massive gap with nothing there.
It's not possible for us to forget because the act, and our governments's responses to it affected many areas of our lives. I don't imagine I'll ever forget the site of people jumping from the buildings to escape the fire before they censored the images.
As long as all this 9/11 stuff stays in America, I don't care.
I'm not sure what you meant by 9/11 stuff? If you mean terrorism that's a global concern.
I think that the clearest sign of terrorists' victory is that every 11th September Americans are scared.
I don't know any Americans that are "scared" of 9/11. We are more concerned with our government's ongoing response to it. However, a major part of that complicated, and varied discussion was censored by Aro just recently ( http://aok.heavengames.com/cgi-bin/aokcgi/display.cgi?action=ct&f=22,38012,0,all),
so there is no point for American members to attempt to discuss it here. Still, I think it's safe to say (while keeping with the mindless adolescent machismo that is exclusively permitted here), that I'd like to be there on the plane if another group of terrorist try to hijack it.
Heck, the very war you started to stop the guys who did it has caused far more innocent deaths than the event itself.
I don't know how much influence you have over what your government does, or how much you think the average American has. Still, some Americans believe that more lives should have been sacrificed in the "very war" to bring it to an end with a favorable outcome, while other Americans think that the war shouldn't have been started. and everything else in between. Rest assured though that the vast majority of us would find such broad and pointed statements like yours meaningless to our stances.

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morgoth bauglir
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posted 09-13-08 11:47 AM CT (US)     20 / 66       
The reason why most europeans dont give much of a damn about 9/11 is that europeans had already experienced terrorism, like ETA or IRA, but the americans sat superior till 9/11, shocked for a week for events like Oklahoma and the first WTC bombing, which were isolated cases and not real terrorism at all.

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Eaglehaslanded
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posted 09-13-08 12:16 PM CT (US)     21 / 66       
Considering we had the Provisional IRA, the most effective terrorist organisation the world as ever seen operating on our doorsteps for more than 80 years, we aren't quite as amazed when things get blown up. It doesn't mean we're not horrified by it, but we've seen what terrorists can do a lot more than the US have.
And hey, in Europe, we have quite a history of being bombed. It's not a new thing to us.

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Murloc
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posted 09-13-08 12:40 PM CT (US)     22 / 66       
This is not an america related topic, in 9/11 terrorits could have attacked european places and such, the same way they did attack madrid in march the 11th, because it's a symbolic date.
It's all about marketing.
General_Zavier
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posted 09-13-08 01:46 PM CT (US)     23 / 66       
The reason why most europeans dont give much of a damn about 9/11 is that europeans had already experienced terrorism
Um... I can't really speak for any other Americans here, but I never would have expected anyone not from the US to give a damn at all. It didn't happen to you guys, and the actual attack had nothing to do with you at all. Therefore I don't see why you would care at all seven years later, or for that matter, why anyone would be under the impression that the entire world still cares.

(And when I say it had nothing to do with any of you, obviously I meant the actual attack. I'm sure that many of your countries are involved in the resulting war.)

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morgoth bauglir
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posted 09-13-08 02:34 PM CT (US)     24 / 66       
Um... I can't really speak for any other Americans here, but I never would have expected anyone not from the US to give a damn at all. It didn't happen to you guys, and the actual attack had nothing to do with you at all. Therefore I don't see why you would care at all seven years later, or for that matter, why anyone would be under the impression that the entire world still cares.

(And when I say it had nothing to do with any of you, obviously I meant the actual attack. I'm sure that many of your countries are involved in the resulting war.)
Exactly. Save for your lovely president and his "ally or enemy" policy.

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AnastasiaKafka
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posted 09-13-08 05:12 PM CT (US)     25 / 66       
As an American I am grateful for the responses to 9/11 from our friends and allies around the world. I especially remember Tony Blair's speech in Washington just after the 9/11 attack that was most comforting for me. The response from all around the world was huge and in a word, touching. I'll never forget that.

Now, years later after an extremely flawed, and in my opinion failed response to the attack, the significance of 9/11 has been reduced to jokes, and a mere opportunity for any insecure dick head to take cheap shots at Americans.

Fair enough, and after all this is the Internet. Still, I think most Americans would rather have a serious discussion about 9/11 and the events and circumstances that developed because of it. My point was that it seems pointless for me to discuss these things in a forum where we are not allowed serious subjects.
The reason why most europeans dont give much of a damn about 9/11 is that europeans had already experienced terrorism, like ETA or IRA, but the americans sat superior till 9/11, shocked for a week for events like Oklahoma and the first WTC bombing, which were isolated cases and not real terrorism at all.
Considering we had the Provisional IRA, the most effective terrorist organisation the world as ever seen operating on our doorsteps for more than 80 years, we aren't quite as amazed when things get blown up. It doesn't mean we're not horrified by it, but we've seen what terrorists can do a lot more than the US have.
And hey, in Europe, we have quite a history of being bombed. It's not a new thing to us.
Great posts, and I wouldn't have wanted to miss yet another opportunity for Europeans to toot their own horn. Only you'll have to forgive us for our lack of enthusiasm for your great accomplishments (enduring strife) like the ump-teenth time we've been afforded them.

Still, we are thoroughly amused by how you guys manage to couch your comments as if you were answering some American question.

Anyway, for the ump-teenth time -- while those events and circumstances are noteworthy and no doubt a source of inspiration and resolve with regard to the European way of life, Americans aren't questioning them.

We expect that people who suffered and survived so much in the last 100 years would find that as a source of strength and pride. We are impressed, only we need to be clear that we are not asking for your pity in regard to 9/11 or any other event in our history. So that might also explain why we are finding those points tiresome.

Just so you know, it's the little pointed remarks like "americans sat superior till 9/11" that are annoying.

Not for nothing, but what we used to respect about you guys aside from being tough as nails, was that you guys were demure and sophisticated. I guess the culture of the Internet and globalization has made monkeys out of us all though?

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