Recently an Israeli-made comic by Tom Trager and Or Paz about two Israeli Arab computer nerds with a terrorist father has led to lots of discussion about its "racist" nature - although lots of people also call it funny, "south park of the middle east", genius, et cetera. Episode 1 has reached 700K views on youtube. I'm curious what everyone here thinks about it.
Well, I'd hardly see any jewish humour as racist, since it's known for kicking the crap out of every race or whatnot, including themselves. So why aren't jews upset about mocking themselves, but are at mocking others?
Well, I'd hardly see any jewish humour as racist, since it's known for kicking the crap out of every race or whatnot, including themselves. So why aren't jews upset about mocking themselves, but are at mocking others?
Strawman, and also a not very logical argument because it assumes the production of humour is in the hands of one institute. It isn't, and this isn't about Jewish humour but about one particular video which happens to have been made by Jews. In what I've seen of it the reason you gave why 'Jewish humour' could not be racist - that they also poke fun at themselves - isn't present at all. There doesn't appear to be any self-inflicted humour. Apart from that, I think it's hard to say whether or not this is racist, as the clip is only about three minutes long which makes it harder to judge. It seems to be intended to poke fun primarily at terrorists, but it also seems to assume that all Palestinians are terrorists simply because there are no other Palestinians in it. Whether that is racist or simply nationalist is hard to say. In the end I don't think it's very relevant. The most important thing by far is that it just isn't funny. The laughter track makes painfully clear that the jokes don't work at all.
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morgoth bauglir Squire
posted 07-03-09 03:49 PM
CT (US)
4 / 7
Barely a strawman when speaking of my own opinion, is it, Kor? My point was this is barely racist, compared to, well, any "edgy" cartoon today.
It really wasn't that funny. Any show, even cartoons that pretend they have "live studio audiences" remind me of Home Improvement. And that reminds me of how much I hate Tim Allen. And now I HATE THIS SHOW RAWR!!!!
But seriously, I didn't think it was all that funny. I mean I chuckled at a one point, but I'll laugh at almost anything.
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Kor Busschof Happertesch
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posted 07-04-09 05:16 AM
CT (US)
6 / 7
Barely a strawman when speaking of my own opinion, is it, Kor? My point was this is barely racist, compared to, well, any "edgy" cartoon today.
Your argumentation against why it couldn't be racist was still a strawman.
OF course, racist comments are quite common in comedy, although they're usually meant to poke fun at the person uttering them rather than the people being discriminated against.
Kor | The Age of Chivalry is upon us! Wellent ich gugk, so hindert mich / köstlicher ziere sinder, Der ich e pflag, da für ich sich / Neur kelber, gaiss, böck, rinder, Und knospot leut, swarz, hässeleich, / Vast rüssig gen dem winder; Die geben müt als sackwein vich. / Vor angst slach ich mein kinder Offt hin hinder.
Aro AoKH Dictator
posted 07-04-09 04:06 PM
CT (US)
7 / 7
I would say "so funny it's racist", but it's not funny, so no, it's not racist.
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