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Metallica_AJ
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posted 03-26-03 11:08 AM CT (US)         
Are you for or against the war on Iraq???
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Frogdude
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posted 03-31-03 02:00 PM CT (US)     26 / 51       

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...Bush is not a ture Christain. A good Christian would not kill thousands so he could make a few dollars and get reveange.

ture LOL How are you so sure that's his motive?

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...worlds largest terrorest, Bush, calles them...

Uh-huh. Bush kill innocent people simply to strike fear into the hearts of his enemies. And he stirs up hatred of everything in the mideast with inflammatory speeches. I doubt it.

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Dave3377
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posted 03-31-03 08:50 PM CT (US)     27 / 51       

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...like Bush is not a ture Christain. A good Christian would not kill thousands so he could make a few dollars and get reveange.

right on Jamel

@Jamel

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I hope he is at least smart enough to...


I dnot quote the rest of this sentence for the same reason I beg you to remove it (inteligent as it may be): DON'T GIVE THE LITTLE BRAT ANY IDEAS! (you know he won't think of it on his own)

p.s. it's Chenney or some thing like that lol.

Jamel
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posted 03-31-03 11:30 PM CT (US)     28 / 51       
Dave, you shold know better. Bush can't read.

"For you were brought into this world with nothing and you shall take nothing out." 1 Tim. 6:7
Frogdude
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posted 04-01-03 01:06 PM CT (US)     29 / 51       
All right, this Bush-bashing has gone too far. You, without the same information as him, without the same character as him, have decided that you do not agree with him. That's fine. But calling him an idiot is just stupid. Again,

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...Bush is not a ture Christain. A good Christian would not kill thousands so he could make a few dollars and get reveange.

And you think that's his motive why? Maybe he actually cares about the Iraqi people? I heard of a plastic-shredding machine that people were put through, sometimes feet first, while others were forced to watch. This is one of the more mentionable atrocities that are coming to light now.

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Iraq does have wapons, the ones we sold them...

And France. And Russia. Don't forget that.

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...then why not go after some South American country for fun?

Uh. No. Fun is not his motive in the slightest. Given that Bush has said he doesn't like war.

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Then a few warring Aferican countries, always "for there own good."

Um, no again. Unless we get a president who is genuinely stupid (unlike Bush) and doesn't know that
war kills people.

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They are not ture Muslims...

There are some things about Islam that you should know. Like that it teaches that the world is divided into two parts, one of Islam domination, and the other is everything else. The Quran says that the latter should be incorporated into the first. Conquest for its own sake is taught, as well as killing of infidels.

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posted 04-01-03 04:08 PM CT (US)     30 / 51       

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And you think that's his motive why? Maybe he actually cares about the Iraqi people?

Just like his dad cared, when millions of Kurds and Shiites were executed when they were told to rebel.

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I heard of a plastic-shredding machine that people were put through, sometimes feet first, while others were forced to watch. This is one of the more mentionable atrocities that are coming to light now.

And I heard that Bush has no brain and lives in the sewers.

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And France. And Russia. Don't forget that.

The U.S. was the major supplier, especially during the Iran-Iraq war.

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Uh. No. Fun is not his motive in the slightest. Given that Bush has said he doesn't like war.

Then, you wouldn't mind justifying this war, that is continuing after a twelve year hiatus?

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Unless we get a president who is genuinely stupid (unlike Bush)

I have some images (and quotations) to prove otherwise.

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There are some things about Islam that you should know. Like that it teaches that the world is divided into two parts, one of Islam domination, and the other is everything else. The Quran says that the latter should be incorporated into the first. Conquest for its own sake is taught, as well as killing of infidels.

Don't make assumptions about a religion that you clearly know NOTHING about.


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Jamel
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posted 04-01-03 09:43 PM CT (US)     31 / 51       
Dubya Quotes

"If we don't succeed, we run the risk of failure."
...George W. Bush

"Republicans understand the importance of bondage between a mother and child."
...Governor George W. Bush

"Welcome to Mrs. Bush, and my fellow astronauts."
...Governor George W. Bush

"Mars is essentially in the same orbit...Mars is somewhat the same distance from the Sun, which is very important. We have seen pictures where there are canals, we believe, and water. If there is water, that means there is oxygen. If oxygen, that means we can breathe."
...Governor George W. Bush, 8/11/94

"The Holocaust was an obscene period in our nation's history. I mean in this century's history. But we all lived in this century. I didn't live in this century."
...Governor George W. Bush, 9/15/95

"I believe we are on an irreversible trend toward more freedom and democracy -- but that could change."
...Governor George W. Bush, 5/22/98

"One word sums up probably the responsibility of any Governor, and that one word is 'to be prepared'."
...Governor George W. Bush, 12/6/93

"Verbosity leads to unclear, inarticulate things."
...Governor George W. Bush, 11/30/96

"I have made good judgments in the past. I have made good judgments in the future."
...Governor George W. Bush

"The future will be better tomorrow."
...Governor George W. Bush

"We're going to have the best educated American people in the world."
...Governor George W. Bush 9/21/97

"People that are really very weird can get into sensitive positions and have a tremendous impact on history."
...Governor George W. Bush

"I stand by all the misstatements that I've made."
...Governor George W. Bush to Sam Donaldson, 8/17/93

"We have a firm commitment to NATO, we are a part of NATO. We have a firm commitment to Europe. We are a part of Europe."
...Governor George W. Bush

"Public speaking is very easy."
...Governor George W. Bush to reporters

"I am not part of the problem. I am a Republican."
...Governor George W. Bush

"A low voter turnout is an indication of fewer people going to the polls."
...Governor George W. Bush

"When I have been asked who caused the riots and the killing in LA, my answer has been direct & simple: Who is to blame for the riots? The rioters are to blame. Who is to blame for the killings? The killers are to blame."
...George W. Bush

"Illegitimacy is something we should talk about in terms of not having it."
...Governor George W. Bush 5/20/96

"We are ready for any unforeseen event that may or may not occur."
...Governor George W. Bush 9/22/97

"For NASA, space is still a high priority."
...Governor George W. Bush, 9/5/93

"Quite frankly, teachers are the only profession that teach our children."
...Governor George W. Bush , 9/18/95

"The American people would not want to know of any misquotes that George Bush may or may not make."
...Governor George W. Bush

"We're all capable of mistakes, but I do not care to enlighten you on the mistakes we may or may not have made."
...Governor George W. Bush

"It isn't pollution that's harming the environment. It's the impurities in our air and water that are doing it."
...Governor George W. Bush

"[It's] time for the human race to enter the solar system."
...Governor George W. Bush

If only I was half that "smart"...

I heard that Bush had no brain and lived on the sewers too!

But seriously he cares deeply about the Iraqi, that is why he bombed the _____ out of them. I know that if you are interested in a girl the best way to show your affection is to bomb her house and kill her parents. That is the extent of his love.

As far as the papershredder thig goes, I think someone was pulling- no shredding your leg...

Yes Saddam is a sick evil little man. Does that mean we should kill thousands of Iraqi people? Saddam kills his own people in awfull ways, but so do we. There is no right, only two wrongs. We have to pick the less-wronger (not a word; I know, I know)But killing thousands of people to save the lives of thousands of people does not make sense to me... Guess I am not as smart as Bush.

(My fav. quote is the one about being part of Europe)
(If you don't get the jokes then: It is okay, you are probably related to Bush and it is not your fault, it is your shallow gene pool.) Frog, are you Islamic? How do you know what a Musslem believes. I am a Christen the Bible says "an eye for and eye a tooth for a tooth", you are to marry your first questions, and that you should throw rocks at gay people untill they die. Every faith has things in it that are missused.

Sorry for bad mouthing Bush this much. But I hate what he is doing to the Iraqi people. It is sick and evil. It is wrong. The rest of the post was a joke, this last part is serious. He is a bad, evil person. He is no better then Saddam or Osama. He has killed more then the two ever will. And like them he uses religon to justify it.


"For you were brought into this world with nothing and you shall take nothing out." 1 Tim. 6:7
nav
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posted 04-01-03 10:12 PM CT (US)     32 / 51       
Nice collection of quotes. I think Scott Adams who draws the comic strip Dilbert would probably have to classify our president as an "In-DUH-vidual."



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Jamel
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posted 04-01-03 10:57 PM CT (US)     33 / 51       
Are you part of Dogbert's Ruling Class?

"For you were brought into this world with nothing and you shall take nothing out." 1 Tim. 6:7

[This message has been edited by Jamel (edited 04-01-2003 @ 10:57 PM).]

Frogdude
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posted 04-01-03 11:35 PM CT (US)     34 / 51       

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And I heard that Bush has no brain and lives in the sewers.

That's stupid. Bush has a brain and lives in the White House.

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The U.S. was the major supplier, especially during the Iran-Iraq war.

I'm not denying that.

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Iraq has weapons, what we gave them.

I'm merely pointing out that we weren't the ONLY ones, OK?

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As far as the papershredder thig goes, I think someone was pulling- no shredding your leg...

I don't think so. It was in a magazine that was quoting from an actual witness, one of those who was forced to watch. Another witness told of his life in a prison, where every day the guards would take 3-5 people, including children, out to be tortured. And meals were a moldy piece of bread for every four people for breakfast, plus a pear or five grapes per person for lunch, things like that.

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Don't make assumptions about a religion that you clearly know NOTHING about.

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Frog, are you Islamic? How do you know what a Musslem believes.

Uh... from talking to someone who has actually studied the Quran and talked with many Muslims? Someone who actually understands Islam?

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posted 04-01-03 11:54 PM CT (US)     35 / 51       

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That's stupid. Bush has a brain and lives in the White House.

Tsk, tsk...

Frogdude, Frogdude. Don't you know what sarcasm is? You clearly didn't provide a source, so why should I believe you?

Again...

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I don't think so. It was in a magazine that was quoting from an actual witness, one of those who was forced to watch. Another witness told of his life in a prison, where every day the guards would take 3-5 people, including children, out to be tortured. And meals were a moldy piece of bread for every four people for breakfast, plus a pear or five grapes per person for lunch, things like that.

Source?

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I'm not denying that.

Then, why bring in other nations?

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Uh... from talking to someone who has actually studied the Quran and talked with many Muslims? Someone who actually understands Islam?

I've lived in the Middle East, I've interacted with Muslims, both personally and electronically (I still forum at Beliefnet.com), and I'd say I have a better understanding than you.

How would one understand a religion completely, without being a part of it? You don't know Islam better than a Muslim. So, don't point fingers and be like Bush and say that there are only two entities that exist: good and evil. Passing judgement upon religion is sheer ignorance.


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nav
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posted 04-02-03 10:05 PM CT (US)     36 / 51       

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Are you part of Dogbert's Ruling Class?

Of course I'm a DNRC member. Supposedly everyone else will be our slaves when Dogbert takes over the world.




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Antz
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posted 04-05-03 04:16 PM CT (US)     37 / 51       
For, because Saddam is (or will be in the future) as ruler as make the West world unsafe.

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Tanneur99
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posted 04-05-03 06:29 PM CT (US)     38 / 51       
For a quick ending, removal of the government, autonomy rights and administration for Kurds and Shiites, exploitation of the oil fields by American and British/Dutch oil companies to get less dependant of Saudi Arabia, from where most of the attackers of September 11th came from.
Tonto_Simfish
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posted 04-05-03 08:49 PM CT (US)     39 / 51       
<---Apatheticx to the war i Iraq; and doesn't frankly care either way.

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posted 04-05-03 09:16 PM CT (US)     40 / 51       
I'm against it. We should just drop a Hydrogen bomb on 'em.

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posted 04-05-03 10:22 PM CT (US)     41 / 51       
...I hope you're joking
AoC_DaVe
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posted 04-05-03 10:36 PM CT (US)     42 / 51       
So do I.

I'm against it - though I guess you have to support the troops now as they're battling anyway.


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posted 04-06-03 01:46 AM CT (US)     43 / 51       
well...I guess ill have to go really right-wing here on my opinion.

My family is a strong military family, I grew up Conservative, and disagree with Liberals in many issues. But as someone said in this thread (srry too lazy to look back) I also respect peoples opinions.

Im very For the war. My uncle is a marine in Iraq, I think hes apart of the 1st infantry. My cousin is in the Army and is stationed in germany. So ill support them all the way.

Um...and one other thing, I disagree with peoples opinions about how Bush is just in this for oil. I think thats Ignorance if I ever saw it.

plus, I wanted too know others views on the Iraqi Prime ministers(or is it the info minister?) appearances on tv saying that US troops arent in fact in control of the airport...? I think thats just propaganda for you..anywho, just my 2 cents.


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posted 04-06-03 11:09 PM CT (US)     44 / 51       
For this war.
Superdog20
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posted 04-06-03 11:11 PM CT (US)     45 / 51       
I'm totally against,but I support the troops
LightningElemental
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posted 04-07-03 01:51 PM CT (US)     46 / 51       
Why do you people need to use big words like Conservative and Liberal? I don't know what this means!

Also, I am kidding about the bomb. How can I be against war and want to drop a bomb on someone at the same time?


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Antz
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posted 04-07-03 03:22 PM CT (US)     47 / 51       
Saddam is not a muslim fundamentalist, he is a Arabian fundamentalist (remember that he had killed about 10.000 muslim fundamentalists, and all Arabians are not muslims (there are many Jewish and Cristianity Arabians too)).

So don't call Saddam for a muslim fundamentalist, it is totaly wrong!!!

The next land USA will invade is (what I think) Iran or Syria.


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posted 04-07-03 04:02 PM CT (US)     48 / 51       
Saddam is not a fundamentalist - he doesn't care whether he kills Arabs or Kurds, Muslims or Jews (he attacked Kuwait, and Kuwaitis are Arabs and Muslims).

He is just a selfish dictator.


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Frogdude
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posted 04-08-03 11:13 PM CT (US)     49 / 51       
Actually, Saddam is a fundamentalist. He's a Saddam Hussein fundamentalist. He doesn't care about anything other than his own survival. He has taken on and removed lots of ideologies, only to drop them when they didn't support his ultimate goal. He doesn't care about friends, if the threat posed by a friend outweighs the good he's doing, out he goes, or at least parts of him.

He doesn't care who he kills, as long as it directly or indirectly supports his cause.

He doesn't care who supports him, as long as it bolsters him personal, political, and national security. A good example of this is that during the Iran-Iraq war he was asking for Israel's support, despite the fact that he had been ranting against the "Zionist imperialists" for years. Plus, he was using American intelligence, and whenever a campaign went well it was attributed to Saddam's military genius (yeah right, with almost no training), and when it went badly it was because the Americans deliberately gave them false information.


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Antz
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posted 04-09-03 12:30 PM CT (US)     50 / 51       
The only he cares of (except his clan) is his birth town; Tikriti. In that town, he have many supporters, thsat town are favored by him.

Today, he losed his control over Bagdad, the people greeted the American soldiers.


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Red Beard
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posted 04-10-03 04:01 AM CT (US)     51 / 51       
War! War! War! War! War! War!

Actually no.

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