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Simfish
Squire
posted 04-11-17 10:43 PM CT (US)         
OMG.. I would have done SO much differently. Like, I would have tried to anticipate the rise of YouTube and social media.. and justin.tv.. and then tried to popularize shimo/diplomacy style across all games. I'd also serve as THE superconnector between AOK and other communities (and even try to hook up w/ppl in the RoN/AoM/AoE3/other RTS communities) and then try to invite them to play AoK (or AoKers to play with them). And then set up a long-lasting community of people who kept on revisiting these communities over decades. I'd also stop trying so hard to appear smart when I didn't need to do so!

Oh, and I would TOTALLY be less neurotic. Like, AoKH formed *so* many of the happiest memories of my life. Though I'd also be careful not to be overspecialized within AoK - I think people who have more varied interests are generally more robustly interesting over time.

I think that consistently being a "big fish" was a comparatively easy problem for me (even trying to become the "big fish" on the ENTIRE Internet - I think that was a solveable problem TOO) It was actually remarkably easy to get people here to like me (I mean, I managed to be pretty well-liked despite doing stupid things). I'd just be the enabler for everyone. I could have used this as a preliminary platform for what some could call as "paradise engineering".

Also I'd have copied some of the old chatlogs from Agincourt - some of those were so EPIC and I still daydream about these. Especially some of those automated quizzes.. haha..

I'd also have tried harder to improve over time.. and not asymptote.. E.g. actually USE the hotkeys, and be more aggressive about hotkey labeling, and even get others to comment on how I could improve on my recorded games (while not playing TOO frequently in intense spurts of time - research now shows that people improve the most when they DON'T train too hard in intense periods of time).

OH - and there are old recorded games where I still intensely regret my actions. Like this one where I could have teamed up with Tonto_TechDude to attack Adder, rather than attack the only remaining enemy across the map (Alyantis, who WAS a friend of mine!) Adder had no enemies at the time and I *had* the highest score - wasn't it logical for me to expect Adder to attack me??? I still have that embarrassingly stupid recorded game years later. Sometimes I think my dumb actions in old AoK recorded games are also reflected in dumb actions I make in real life.. Like this one other recorded game where I could have EASILY owned Tonto_Stendecca when he was chasing down Toastabal... Rather than wait for Stendecca to pwn Toastabal and then only to unally him later..

I think managing my time would be a TRICK challenge though.. Like, I would TOTALLY do early entrance to college again (GOD, K-12 education was child abuse on me), but then use THAT as a period to basically unschool myself and become huge on the Internet (and then later Quora when **that** became huge). I would just be the ULTRA-CURIOUS curator of the entire Internet - and thank AOKH as the starting ground of it all, enshrining AoKH permanently in eternal fame as strong AGI permanently changes the world (and then we have millions of conscious agents permanently playing AoK in paradise).

I'd also have talked to many AoKHers/AoMHers/EEHers more. Especially people like Matei (don't you know Matei is CHANGING THE WORLD RIGHT NOW? He even has a WIKIPEDIA ARTICLE for himself!! ). And Soccy. I've always been of the belief that AoKHers were of much-higher-than-normal-intelligence, and are capable of having vast Internet footprints, and I'd have done more to help more of them have sustained Internet footprints that last over decades.

(though drama, of course, is difficult to deal with).

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Cataphract887
Squire
posted 04-13-17 11:12 AM CT (US)     26 / 65       
(I understand the original topic had negative intent, but I'm trying to bring out your inner optimist... HELP ME!!)
I think the tone of the post for me was a melancholic, nostalgic one. "Negative intent" to me invokes images of reddit toxicity and the like.


About this side topic of moderators, im quite pleased with the current state of the community here. There used to be in the old days, an oppressive atmosphere which made it not appealing to hang around and contribute. I havnt seen the mods being obnoxious in the last few months ive been active, and its nice and mellow. Overbearing mods that impress their personal opinion on others as a law definitely do a great deal of harm to a community.

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Aro
AoKH Dictator
posted 04-13-17 11:21 AM CT (US)     27 / 65       
I think the tone of the post for me was a melancholic, nostalgic one. "Negative intent" to me invokes images of reddit toxicity and the like.
Thank you for pointing that out, that was poor wording on my part. I meant more that it had a pessimistic slant - we're to look back at our faults and explain what we would have done to change the outcome with the presumption that it would've improved our lives today, an idea which is free to be expressed, but I find myself more interested in the idea of mistakes as character builders (which is why I asked Simmy if anything positive came of past mistakes). I'm pretty certain Simmy didn't post this with the intent for everyone to feel down.

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Cataphract887
Squire
posted 04-13-17 11:44 AM CT (US)     28 / 65       
Yeah, thats what i thought you meant in the first place.

Im pretty happy with how i am now, and wouldnt change anything in that sense;its just that i could have gotten to where i am now, much faster.

"Excellent could be any map that has the quality of a ES random map or ES scenario. AoK is an excellent, award winning game. That's where I'd start." -AnastasiaKafka

"Hard work is evil. Bitmaps are stupid. Working on a scenario for more than one afternoon is stupid. Triggers are stupid. Testing your own scenario is stupid. The world is stupid. You are the Greatest." -Ingo Van Thiel
zyxomma100
Squire
posted 04-13-17 04:17 PM CT (US)     29 / 65       
I do wish I had managed my time at SD better. The last screenshot competition I hosted was pretty bad on my part. And maybe I should've participated more in some of the community gaming sessions. I've always been trash at the actual game, so I never really cared for the official AoKH ladder, but I do wish I had gotten in a few more sessions of Multiplayer Custom Scenario Night before the Zone shut down.

But it's not like I have any huge regrets or anything like that.

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[This message has been edited by zyxomma100 (edited 04-13-2017 @ 04:18 PM).]

Aro
AoKH Dictator
posted 04-13-17 06:29 PM CT (US)     30 / 65       
But it's not like I have any huge regrets or anything like that.
Don't you sometimes wonder what it would be like if you hadn't have thwarted my evil plans since 2002? Dude, this site would be SO active right now. (One of my plans was to recruit a young Mark Zuckerberg to become a mod!)

Your attractive master.
"Because I before E is a LIE!!!"
zyxomma100
Squire
posted 04-13-17 08:44 PM CT (US)     31 / 65       
Don't you sometimes wonder what it would be like if you hadn't have thwarted my evil plans since 2002? Dude, this site would be SO active right now. (One of my plans was to recruit a young Mark Zuckerberg to become a mod!)
Are you kidding me? You guys are welcome! Do you not realize how much worse this place would be with our parents able to see everything we type! And dealing with all their random shared posts and pictures of food?

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"There is nothing more sad than watching a teutonic knight chasing a petard."
Simfish
Squire
posted 04-14-17 01:32 AM CT (US)     32 / 65       
I think some mistakes are character builders, but those that make you throw years of your life into something you hate are the ones that build you the least (that's, incidentally, why so many doctors/lawyers are so intensely unhappy with their jobs).

In other words, the ones that inhibit you from being free, learning more about yourself, and exploring the world - those are least likely to be character builders.

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Simfish
Squire
posted 04-14-17 01:40 AM CT (US)     33 / 65       
Lol I should have realized sometime ago that permabans aren't really permanent. Who cares about IClan_Emporer's immaturity by now? Or DEMOLITION SHIP CAPTAIN. HE DA MAN.

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azure skies
Squire
(id: ThUnDeR77)
posted 04-14-17 10:18 AM CT (US)     34 / 65       
I think I did OK for being a cringe-y teenager, lol. It's a bit hard to say but I think I was/am younger (b. 1993) than the average age curve of the active users of around my time of registering and foruming, and I'm glad that it never scared or deterred me from participating, even if I feel like I made a lot of mistakes and was usually oblivious to them. In the end, I'm thankful for you guys putting up with me and being inclusive. This was a healthy and safe place for me to learn how to express myself creatively early on, and I'm eternally grateful for that.

[This message has been edited by azure skies (edited 04-14-2017 @ 11:15 AM).]

Joshua4missions
Knight
posted 04-26-17 08:29 PM CT (US)     35 / 65       
Scope in scenario design! I thought that every campaign I made had to have a super intricate story with dozens of side quests, different people to play as, multiple game modes all spread over a 5 scenario campaign that would take hours to play through. I had the misconception that in order to make a popular game I had to use a ton of design tricks and cool effects. I became so obsessed with the eye candy that my storylines sucked and I spent 3 years of my life making a scenario that should have only took 3-6 months.

I finished it though, despite not being polished.

If I could go back, I'd focus on story, flow of the game and focus on the things that make a great game.
Luke
Squire
posted 04-28-17 02:46 PM CT (US)     36 / 65       
Looking back at your old AoKH days from years ago, what would you do differently?
Nothing.

Hindsight is bullshit. There's no point in looking at things you think you did wrong ten to fifteen years ago through a lens filtered by your knowledge of today because you didn't have said knowledge of today those ten to fifteen years ago; all you had to work with back then is what you knew then, which is always going to seem limited when compared to what you know now. All you get out of reviewing your memories is a clusterf*ck of emotions that is invariably dominated by regret and shame - two of the most self-destructive feelings known to man, as what's done is done and beating yourself up over any of it is just a colossal waste of time. Besides, human beings don't change. Not really. Any quirks or peculiarities that were a part of you back then are still with you today; you just get more proficient at downplaying their influence or even hiding their existence altogether as you grow older.

Leave the past where it belongs, and soldier on. You have only so much time to spend on this ball of dirt before you croak, so don't spend it thinking about the time you've already spent - unless, of course, they're happy memories that you wouldn't change even if you could. People typically don't have too many of those, Facebook propaganda notwithstanding, so cherish what you've got.

It's a different answer than the one I gave you over at OD, but OD is for shitposting since all people do over there nowadays is argue football and play mafia anyway.

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Lord Sipia
Knight
posted 04-28-17 03:10 PM CT (US)     37 / 65       
Now now, I think you're discrediting the value of self-reflection there. And I can tell you that because I spent many years trying to consciously learn that skill because I have a natural deficiency of it and as such I've become quite adept at recognizing and learning from my mistakes and shortcomings. It is without question true that those who won't learn from the past are doomed to repeat it and I don't believe your "human beings don't change" for a second. Some things about people might never change, but people do change in lots of other ways. I know I have. I'd better, I'm at the stage where most psychological changes should be taking place.

What is true, however, is that a lot of people have a natural tendency to feel guilty for things they had no control over. That is bullshit. Like how I still can't or won't forgive myself for mistaking a man for his identical twin when I was 6 even though nobody told me he had a twin so logically there's no way I could've known. But with that said, on the other hand, at some points in my life I had no excuse for being a jackass. And I don't like being a jackass, so I want to figure out how to not be that guy anymore. Like that time I hated Bronies for absolutely no real reason. What did I gain from that except alienate people who I might've gotten along with otherwise? I'm glad I realized that about myself so I could change, which wouldn't have happened if I didn't stop to review my actions.

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zyxomma100
Squire
posted 04-28-17 03:12 PM CT (US)     38 / 65       
I take back what I said about the no regrets thing.

I would give up everything I have for one more chance. Just one more chance to go back in time and kick Luke.



Edit: Oh my God! I just realized! What's in the past is in the past. I need to live my life and look at the present and toward the future. I need to live my life!

*kicks Luke*

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[This message has been edited by zyxomma100 (edited 04-28-2017 @ 03:14 PM).]

Luke
Squire
posted 04-28-17 04:08 PM CT (US)     39 / 65       
Now now, I think you're discrediting the value of self-reflection there. And I can tell you that because I spent many years trying to consciously learn that skill because I have a natural deficiency of it and as such I've become quite adept at recognizing and learning from my mistakes and shortcomings. It is without question true that those who won't learn from the past are doomed to repeat it and I don't believe your "human beings don't change" for a second. Some things about people might never change, but people do change in lots of other ways. I know I have. I'd better, I'm at the stage where most psychological changes should be taking place.
You can reflect on your mistakes and shortcomings and vow to do better in the future, or you can realize that you can be as f*cked up as The Donald and still get voted into the world's most powerful office.

Self-reflection is like masturbation: you're the only one who feels good about it.
Oh my God! I just realized! What's in the past is in the past. I need to live my life and look at the present and toward the future. I need to live my life!

*kicks Luke*
Feels much better than mourning the fact that you never did, doesn't it?

Also, stop kicking me.

"Some scientists claim that hydrogen, because it is so plentiful, is the basic building block of the universe. I dispute that.
I say there is more stupidity than hydrogen, and that is the basic building block of the universe." - Frank Zappa

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Lord Sipia
Knight
posted 04-28-17 04:13 PM CT (US)     40 / 65       
or you can realize that you can be as f*cked up as The Donald and still get voted into the world's most powerful office.
Let's not take American politics as the benchmark for what humanity can achieve, shall we.

"You can't open up the story of my life and just go to page 738 and think you know me."
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"It's hard to have an existential crisis when everything is so pretty."
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Luke
Squire
posted 04-28-17 04:16 PM CT (US)     41 / 65       
Let's not take American politics as the benchmark for what humanity can achieve, shall we.
Why not? Seems like the perfect benchmark to me.

Incidentally, I'm not even talking about the things The Donald did after he became president - so technically, politics doesn't even factor into it.

"Some scientists claim that hydrogen, because it is so plentiful, is the basic building block of the universe. I dispute that.
I say there is more stupidity than hydrogen, and that is the basic building block of the universe." - Frank Zappa

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Lord Sipia
Knight
posted 04-28-17 04:24 PM CT (US)     42 / 65       
Why not? Seems like the perfect benchmark to me.
Bleh. I'm just really sick of the "this horrible thing happened so humans are horrible beings who will only ever do horrible things" argument. It's a really tiresome thought pattern that only makes you miserable.
Incidentally, I'm not even talking about the things The Donald did after he became president - so technically, politics doesn't even factor into it.
Of course it factors into it. The American political landscape without a doubt plays a major part in that travesty. And he might claim he's not a politician, but he sounds and reeks like pure politics to me.

But eh, we've talked about the election enough, don't feel like going through that song and dance again.

"You can't open up the story of my life and just go to page 738 and think you know me."
--Arin "Egoraptor" Hanson (on judging people by their Google search history)

"It's hard to have an existential crisis when everything is so pretty."
--Dan "Danny Sexbang" Avidan
Luke
Squire
posted 04-28-17 04:44 PM CT (US)     43 / 65       
Bleh. I'm just really sick of the "this horrible thing happened so humans are horrible beings who will only ever do horrible things" argument. It's a really tiresome thought pattern that only makes you miserable.
I don't think it's horrible; I think it's f*cking hilarious. The jokes basically write themselves.

"Some scientists claim that hydrogen, because it is so plentiful, is the basic building block of the universe. I dispute that.
I say there is more stupidity than hydrogen, and that is the basic building block of the universe." - Frank Zappa

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Simfish
Squire
posted 04-30-17 12:45 PM CT (US)     44 / 65       
I think that "chill out" is really something I could have done in hindsight, and would have been easy to do regardless of how much I've learned since then.

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Lurkur
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(id: OtmShankIiI)
posted 04-30-17 03:48 PM CT (US)     45 / 65       
I would've tried to be less of an ass when I first came here.

I was emotionally immature and also severely depressed at the time, so I suppose I wanted to vent by going full GIFT because lol anonymity. In time I realized this pointless act didn't do me any favors so in the end I became the quiet, perpetually lurking one whose presence seems to be unnoticed by everyone here.

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Vinyl
Banned
posted 04-30-17 06:01 PM CT (US)     46 / 65       
Be less attention grabby. But oh well. You either learn to coexist with depression or grow out of it (or continue to be a shit head). Being a nuisance on the Internet is what being an angst teen is all about. I have no regrets.

Edit: the above is all self referential. Not a weird jab at earlier posters in case that was not clear

[This message has been edited by Vinyl (edited 04-30-2017 @ 06:03 PM).]

Popeychops
"Cool" Huskarl
posted 04-30-17 07:58 PM CT (US)     47 / 65       
It's ok Vinyl, we've learned to love you and your introspection

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Vinyl
Banned
posted 04-30-17 08:30 PM CT (US)     48 / 65       
I guess moody introspectors are better than anxious wannabes. Chex out, yo.
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Moff
(id: Moff Yittreas)
posted 05-01-17 10:38 AM CT (US)     49 / 65       
Eh, at least no one's regret here is, "not enough IM cyber."

Then again, I got here after the Golden Age of IM programs. I miss MSN Messenger Plus.

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posted 05-01-17 10:57 AM CT (US)     50 / 65       
Doesn't Steam's friend chat also count as an instant messenger? It does the job for me, anyways.

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"It's hard to have an existential crisis when everything is so pretty."
--Dan "Danny Sexbang" Avidan
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