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Lord Sipia
Knight
posted 10-19-18 07:13 AM CT (US)         
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  • "You can't open up the story of my life and just go to page 738 and think you know me."
    --Arin "Egoraptor" Hanson (on judging people by their Google search history)

    "It's hard to have an existential crisis when everything is so pretty."
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    Lord Sipia
    Knight
    posted 10-19-18 07:14 AM CT (US)     1 / 426       
    ...In the interest of democracy, I hereby provide the forum public with a choice. Do you prefer this thread or Blatant's? Vote now on your phones!

    "You can't open up the story of my life and just go to page 738 and think you know me."
    --Arin "Egoraptor" Hanson (on judging people by their Google search history)

    "It's hard to have an existential crisis when everything is so pretty."
    --Dan "Danny Sexbang" Avidan
    Uchuu Senkan Yamoffo
    Moff
    (id: Moff Yittreas)
    posted 10-19-18 07:40 AM CT (US)     2 / 426       
    Now it's a runoff!

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    Lord Sipia: "THIS IS WHAT HAPPENS WHEN SIPPY IS EXCLUDED! EVERYBODY LOSES THEIR SANITY" | Also Lord Sipia: "...Of course. Prepare the butter."
    "Moff's anime diatribes/photos are infinitely less annoying than legion's communism, so I don't complain." - Azzie, proving that cute girls driving tanks >> Left-wing ideology
    Uchuu Senkan Yamoffo
    Moff
    (id: Moff Yittreas)
    posted 10-19-18 08:19 AM CT (US)     3 / 426       
    Donald Trump should bring back battleships!

    (We need boats here too to keep it even)

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    Lord Sipia: "THIS IS WHAT HAPPENS WHEN SIPPY IS EXCLUDED! EVERYBODY LOSES THEIR SANITY" | Also Lord Sipia: "...Of course. Prepare the butter."
    "Moff's anime diatribes/photos are infinitely less annoying than legion's communism, so I don't complain." - Azzie, proving that cute girls driving tanks >> Left-wing ideology
    Lord Sipia
    Knight
    posted 10-19-18 08:48 AM CT (US)     4 / 426       
    Do you one better: Spaceships.

    "You can't open up the story of my life and just go to page 738 and think you know me."
    --Arin "Egoraptor" Hanson (on judging people by their Google search history)

    "It's hard to have an existential crisis when everything is so pretty."
    --Dan "Danny Sexbang" Avidan
    Popeychops
    "Cool" Huskarl
    posted 10-19-18 10:50 AM CT (US)     5 / 426       
    I like this one better

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    "You're not Popeychops; you don't get to physics." - Moff, in response to a clumsy muon simile
    Lord Sipia
    Knight
    posted 10-19-18 11:27 AM CT (US)     6 / 426       
    A vote for this thread is a vote to end poverty and world hunger! And for world peace! And to cure cancer! I mean, not that we'll be able to do anything about any of those issues, but those are ideals we support. In spirit.

    "You can't open up the story of my life and just go to page 738 and think you know me."
    --Arin "Egoraptor" Hanson (on judging people by their Google search history)

    "It's hard to have an existential crisis when everything is so pretty."
    --Dan "Danny Sexbang" Avidan
    Uchuu Senkan Yamoffo
    Moff
    (id: Moff Yittreas)
    posted 10-19-18 11:55 AM CT (US)     7 / 426       
    So Popeboat vote votes his boat boat vote vote to this Vote Vote?

    I actually am caught between them.

    New RPG Coming Soon | Purveyor of the Poi | Weeaboo Brony Conserative - The Ultimate Foe to the Internet
    Lord Sipia: "THIS IS WHAT HAPPENS WHEN SIPPY IS EXCLUDED! EVERYBODY LOSES THEIR SANITY" | Also Lord Sipia: "...Of course. Prepare the butter."
    "Moff's anime diatribes/photos are infinitely less annoying than legion's communism, so I don't complain." - Azzie, proving that cute girls driving tanks >> Left-wing ideology
    Uchuu Senkan Yamoffo
    Moff
    (id: Moff Yittreas)
    posted 10-19-18 01:50 PM CT (US)     8 / 426       
    Vote: Vote Vote II: Twelve Angry Forummers

    Sorry Blatant.

    Now, where were we? Anti-immigrant douchebags are douchebags?

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    Lord Sipia: "THIS IS WHAT HAPPENS WHEN SIPPY IS EXCLUDED! EVERYBODY LOSES THEIR SANITY" | Also Lord Sipia: "...Of course. Prepare the butter."
    "Moff's anime diatribes/photos are infinitely less annoying than legion's communism, so I don't complain." - Azzie, proving that cute girls driving tanks >> Left-wing ideology
    Blatant
    DoFH Seraph & Director of Seraphs
    (id: blatant7)
    posted 10-19-18 07:42 PM CT (US)     9 / 426       
    Nah I like this one better too, it has more seats. Plus world peace!

    Yes, I began my journey alone, and I ended it alone.
    But that does not mean that I walked alone. ~ Brandon Sanderson
    Uchuu Senkan Yamoffo
    Moff
    (id: Moff Yittreas)
    posted 10-19-18 08:32 PM CT (US)     10 / 426       
    Hot take: world peace is impossible; only avoidance of world war is feasible.

    Also...


    So, pissed on world peace. Ruined Christmas. So, let's talk about Brexit. <_<

    Popey, as a staunch Remainer, what is your take on the Remain campaign? Because I see a lot of other Remainers, who are understandably pissed, but they say that the campaign was utterly inept.

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    Lord Sipia: "THIS IS WHAT HAPPENS WHEN SIPPY IS EXCLUDED! EVERYBODY LOSES THEIR SANITY" | Also Lord Sipia: "...Of course. Prepare the butter."
    "Moff's anime diatribes/photos are infinitely less annoying than legion's communism, so I don't complain." - Azzie, proving that cute girls driving tanks >> Left-wing ideology
    ax_man1
    Squire
    posted 10-20-18 01:00 AM CT (US)     11 / 426       
    ...But have you ever told someone to go to Somalia if they don't like government overreach?
    Yes, I have. It's the best response to libertarians

    ax_man1

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    Popeychops
    "Cool" Huskarl
    posted 10-20-18 01:38 AM CT (US)     12 / 426       
    Popey, as a staunch Remainer, what is your take on the Remain campaign? Because I see a lot of other Remainers, who are understandably pissed, but they say that the campaign was utterly inept.
    About right. All the campaigns on the Remain side were woeful.

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    Co-creator of Silent Evil (4.6) Voted Best Multiplayer Scenario of 2009 (Most Fave'd Multiplayer Scenario)
    and The Seas of Egressa (4.8) Voted Best Multiplayer Scenario of 2010
    "Popey just hates everywhere." - Chocolate Jesus, on my fear of Romanian organ-traffickers
    "Hooray for Dear Leader-Comrade-Generalissimo-Presidente-Lord Protector Popey!" - Lord Sipia, on my benevolent, iron-fisted rule
    "You're not Popeychops; you don't get to physics." - Moff, in response to a clumsy muon simile
    Popeychops
    "Cool" Huskarl
    posted 10-20-18 01:43 AM CT (US)     13 / 426       
    The thing is, it's over now. We're fighting over different issues: what should the deal be? Should it be ratified by a second referendum with an option to remain?

    The campaign for the latter is much more powerful and I suspect that it will get a majority in the House of Commons. But whether it will then translate into an actual referendum is another matter because only a government can call them.

    Member of BlackForest Studios
    Co-creator of Silent Evil (4.6) Voted Best Multiplayer Scenario of 2009 (Most Fave'd Multiplayer Scenario)
    and The Seas of Egressa (4.8) Voted Best Multiplayer Scenario of 2010
    "Popey just hates everywhere." - Chocolate Jesus, on my fear of Romanian organ-traffickers
    "Hooray for Dear Leader-Comrade-Generalissimo-Presidente-Lord Protector Popey!" - Lord Sipia, on my benevolent, iron-fisted rule
    "You're not Popeychops; you don't get to physics." - Moff, in response to a clumsy muon simile
    Lord Sipia
    Knight
    posted 10-20-18 02:13 AM CT (US)     14 / 426       
    Would that referendum be binding (i.e. the government has to do what the results say) or non-binding?

    "You can't open up the story of my life and just go to page 738 and think you know me."
    --Arin "Egoraptor" Hanson (on judging people by their Google search history)

    "It's hard to have an existential crisis when everything is so pretty."
    --Dan "Danny Sexbang" Avidan
    MawBTS
    I ONCE PUT AN ENTIRE ORANGE INTO MY MOUTH
    (id: Bart Pimpson)
    posted 10-20-18 04:16 AM CT (US)     15 / 426       
    What should be done about the Jewish Question?
    Uchuu Senkan Yamoffo
    Moff
    (id: Moff Yittreas)
    posted 10-20-18 08:36 AM CT (US)     16 / 426       
    The campaign for the latter is much more powerful and I suspect that it will get a majority in the House of Commons. But whether it will then translate into an actual referendum is another matter because only a government can call them.
    I was under the impression you were opposed to a second referendum. Or have things been so utterly shambolic that it really does necessitate a complete do-over?

    As an outside observer with no direct stake, I do find the idea of a second vote to be... not quite dubious, but perhaps a third cousin to it? On the other hand, well... Prohibition was a mistake and absolutely should have been repealed sooner. The electorate can make mistakes and/or be mislead.
    Would that referendum be binding (i.e. the government has to do what the results say) or non-binding?
    Another valid point.
    What should be done about the Jewish Question?
    And which question is that? Do tell!

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    Lord Sipia: "THIS IS WHAT HAPPENS WHEN SIPPY IS EXCLUDED! EVERYBODY LOSES THEIR SANITY" | Also Lord Sipia: "...Of course. Prepare the butter."
    "Moff's anime diatribes/photos are infinitely less annoying than legion's communism, so I don't complain." - Azzie, proving that cute girls driving tanks >> Left-wing ideology
    Neochud
    Squire
    (id: Taichud)
    posted 10-21-18 02:21 PM CT (US)     17 / 426       
    Would that referendum be binding (i.e. the government has to do what the results say) or non-binding?
    Unless legislation is passed explicitly making it so, no, it would not be legally binding.

    [This message has been edited by Sinochud (edited 10-21-2018 @ 02:22 PM).]

    Uchuu Senkan Yamoffo
    Moff
    (id: Moff Yittreas)
    posted 10-21-18 03:19 PM CT (US)     18 / 426       
    So it's a massive public opinion poll.

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    Lord Sipia: "THIS IS WHAT HAPPENS WHEN SIPPY IS EXCLUDED! EVERYBODY LOSES THEIR SANITY" | Also Lord Sipia: "...Of course. Prepare the butter."
    "Moff's anime diatribes/photos are infinitely less annoying than legion's communism, so I don't complain." - Azzie, proving that cute girls driving tanks >> Left-wing ideology
    ColdCanuck
    Squire
    (id: Coldviper)
    posted 10-21-18 03:23 PM CT (US)     19 / 426       
    You do nothing to dissuade these views and then post in ways that only reinforces them.
    The dialogue these days is so poisonous, but it's okay. I think most conservatives have come to peace with the fact that if you disagree on any issue, your character will immediately be assaulted with charges of xenophobia.
    I do think though that you lack nuance.
    Well, I'm not really interested in getting into a nuanced conversation on the internet. Any nuanced position requires that the members of the conversation are more or less on the same side. Anything I say in this thread is just ammunition that will be twisted and used against me. I don't even have to mention any specifics and people accuse me of xenophobia.
    That's a fair position, but it doesn't mean abortion can't be discussed in a reasonable manner by people who ideologically disagree with each other.

    Well, I disagree. It can't. I've seen it discussed, and it always ends in a terrible shit show of people throwing the vile insults at each other, especially on the internet. People are starting to realize that at some point you cannot reconcile two worldviews that are antithetical to each other.
    Uchuu Senkan Yamoffo
    Moff
    (id: Moff Yittreas)
    posted 10-21-18 03:41 PM CT (US)     20 / 426       
    This isn't OD, and you're not Civis. I'd say six days out of seven, we can have a decent, civilized conversation across the aisle.

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    Lord Sipia: "THIS IS WHAT HAPPENS WHEN SIPPY IS EXCLUDED! EVERYBODY LOSES THEIR SANITY" | Also Lord Sipia: "...Of course. Prepare the butter."
    "Moff's anime diatribes/photos are infinitely less annoying than legion's communism, so I don't complain." - Azzie, proving that cute girls driving tanks >> Left-wing ideology
    Neochud
    Squire
    (id: Taichud)
    posted 10-21-18 08:23 PM CT (US)     21 / 426       
    Well, I'm not really interested in getting into a nuanced conversation on the internet. Any nuanced position requires that the members of the conversation are more or less on the same side. Anything I say in this thread is just ammunition that will be twisted and used against me. I don't even have to mention any specifics and people accuse me of xenophobia.
    Regardless of this thread in particular, it's obviously not true that the idea that you can't have nuanced conversation with someone who isn't 'on your side'. I can think of nuanced conversations with people that don't disagree with me I've had personally.

    Uchuu Senkan Yamoffo
    Moff
    (id: Moff Yittreas)
    posted 10-21-18 08:40 PM CT (US)     22 / 426       

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    Lord Sipia: "THIS IS WHAT HAPPENS WHEN SIPPY IS EXCLUDED! EVERYBODY LOSES THEIR SANITY" | Also Lord Sipia: "...Of course. Prepare the butter."
    "Moff's anime diatribes/photos are infinitely less annoying than legion's communism, so I don't complain." - Azzie, proving that cute girls driving tanks >> Left-wing ideology
    ax_man1
    Squire
    posted 10-21-18 09:03 PM CT (US)     23 / 426       
    Yeah, Hillary needs to stop and step aside. Then again, who exactly is there for democrats that isn't a senior citizen? Michael Bloomberg recently changed his party affiliation to democrat and there's been strong rumblings about him running, but I'd rather we not have another businessman as president.
    Anything I say in this thread is just ammunition that will be twisted and used against me.
    Disagreeing with you != attacking you. All you're saying in your post is that you don't want to have to defend your positions

    ax_man1

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    Uchuu Senkan Yamoffo
    Moff
    (id: Moff Yittreas)
    posted 10-21-18 10:10 PM CT (US)     24 / 426       
    I'm telling you... her cultists will see her in the White House if it means her putting a pantsuit over bones and articulating her skeleton with pulleys and cable.

    New RPG Coming Soon | Purveyor of the Poi | Weeaboo Brony Conserative - The Ultimate Foe to the Internet
    Lord Sipia: "THIS IS WHAT HAPPENS WHEN SIPPY IS EXCLUDED! EVERYBODY LOSES THEIR SANITY" | Also Lord Sipia: "...Of course. Prepare the butter."
    "Moff's anime diatribes/photos are infinitely less annoying than legion's communism, so I don't complain." - Azzie, proving that cute girls driving tanks >> Left-wing ideology
    Popeychops
    "Cool" Huskarl
    posted 10-22-18 03:30 AM CT (US)     25 / 426       
    Moff place don't spam Polish swearwords

    Member of BlackForest Studios
    Co-creator of Silent Evil (4.6) Voted Best Multiplayer Scenario of 2009 (Most Fave'd Multiplayer Scenario)
    and The Seas of Egressa (4.8) Voted Best Multiplayer Scenario of 2010
    "Popey just hates everywhere." - Chocolate Jesus, on my fear of Romanian organ-traffickers
    "Hooray for Dear Leader-Comrade-Generalissimo-Presidente-Lord Protector Popey!" - Lord Sipia, on my benevolent, iron-fisted rule
    "You're not Popeychops; you don't get to physics." - Moff, in response to a clumsy muon simile
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