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Mash
Huskarl
(id: Mashek)
posted 07-22-10 09:35 AM CT (US)         


Here you may request a review for your file or for another's, whether it be because you would like a second opinion or because you believe a certain file is rated unfairly or is even over-rated. To do so simply leave a comment and the Thread Reviewers here will take a look at it. Please be patient as a skilled review can take some time to write.

BECOMING A THREAD REVIEWER


If you would like to help out with the community and become a Thread Reviewer, you need just four approved reviews. Please post your request in this thread or send a mail to panel@heavengames.com, naming your last review. You do not have to review regularly, but keep in mind that if you have not posted or updated a review within three months you will be put on inactive. To become active again, simply find your name below and post a review. If your name is not listed inactive anymore, your last review will have dated before 01/01/09 (DD/MM/YY) and you may re-enter the thread after one posted review only.




ACTIVE THREAD REVIEWERS
(In order of number of reviews)
* = Official Reviewer

169 Possidon*: Single Player, Multiplayer, Cinematic Scenarios, Non-Playable Scenarios, Mod Packs, Utilities, RMS, AI-Files
107 Lord Basse*: Single Player, Multiplayer, Cinematic Scenarios, Non-Playable Scenarios, Mod Packs, Utilities, RMS
92 Mashek*: Single Player, Multiplayer, Cinematic Scenarios, Non-Playable Scenarios, Mod Packs, Utilities
80 Sword_of_Storm (Jatayu)*: Single Player, Mod Packs, Utilities, RMS, AI-Files
45 Panel*: Single Player, Cinematic Scenarios, Non-Playable Scenarios, Mod Packs, Utilities
35 alekshs: Single Player, Multiplayer, Cinematic Scenarios, Non-Playable Scenarios, Mod Packs, Utilities, Recorded Games, RMS, AI-Files
30 dragonslayermcmx: Single Player, Cinematic Scenarios, Non-Playable Scenarios, Mod Packs, Utilities
27 Sarn: Single Player, Mod Packs
18 Mayank Sharma: Single Player, Multiplayer, Mod Packs, Utilities
9 RladalFatih: Single Player, Non-Playable Scenarios
6 Dead_End: Cinematic Scenarios, Non-Playable Scenarios, Mod Packs, Utilities
4 HockeySam18: Single Player

CURRENT INACTIVE THREAD REVIEWERS
(In order of time of inactivity)

11 Leif Ericson: Single Player, RMS, AI-Files
55 Popeychops*: Single Player, Multiplayer, Cinematic Scenarios, Mod Packs, Utilities, RMS, AI-Files
26 Julius999*: Single Player, Cinematic Scenarios
25 Dtrungle*: Single Player, Cinematic Scenarios, Utilities
09 joshua4missions: Single Player, Mod Packs
10 Fanica: Single Player, Mod Packs, Utilities
05 Jecon: Single Player, Utilities
08 hailstorm65: Single Player, Mod Packs, Utilities
27 Cilibinarii: Single Player, Cinematic Scenarios, Utilities
23 FuzzyFurry25: Single Player, Mod Packs, Utilities
16 Guthan: Single Player, Multiplayer, Mod Packs, Utilities, RMS

OFFICIAL REVIEWERS


Mashek
Lord Basse
Popeychops
Julius999
Jatayu (aka Sword_of_Storm)
Possidon
Dtrungle
Stephen Richards
Panel

HALL OF FAME


231 Tanneur99
95 Lord_Fadawah
92 BrandNewCar
61 clayperboy
54 rwilde
31 Stephen Richards*
30 zyxomma100
25 Magnum Zero
24 RF_Gandalf




REVIEW LIST

The list below consists of a number of requests and/or downloads recently rated by thread reviewers. Requests are marked R and updates U. Thread Reviewers are free to review whichever file they want, but should be aware that the designers at the top of each list are waiting the longest for a review. Files that have received a review in the time of request in this thread (whether by a thread reviewer or not) will be removed from the list unless a second opinion is requested.

AI Files: None

Utilities:
R Notepad++ AI Editor, by beladar; No Reviewer
R Enchanced Editor, by GeneralR; Reviewer: panel 3.3
DirectDrawFix - Color Update, by scripter64; Reviewer: panel 5.0
All Bitmaps of all Units, by dragonslayermcmx; Reviewer: Lord Basse 5.0
All Bitmaps of all Buildings, by dragonslayermcmx; Reviewer: Lord Basse 5.0
Advanced Genie Editor 2, by Keisari Tapsa; Reviewer: Lord Basse 5.0
SLP Editor 2.2.5, by Hawk_Ruralist; Reviewer: Lord Basse 5.0
DirectDrawFix - Color Update, by scripter64; Reviewer: Possidon 5.0


Mod Packs:
U Age of Vampires, by Khan Ivayl; Reviewer: Mashek 4.0, alekshs 5.0
Explosive Turtle Ship, by dragonslayermcmx; Reviewer: panel 4.0
AH-64 Apache Armed Helicopter, by Hawk_Adongct; Reviewer: Lord Basse 4.3
Archery Range Pack, by Rageofempires; Reviewer: Mayank Sharma 2.8
Transformers BUMBLEBEE, by Hawk_Adongct; Reviewer: dragonslayermcmx 3.3
Oriental shield king, by Hawk_Adongct; Reviewer: dragonslayermcmx 4.3

Cinematic Scenarios:
ACSC10 - The Last Samurai - Blood Memories, by Sebastien; Reviewer: Mashek 4.6, Lord Basse 4.4
A Tribute To RU42, by Hawk_Adongct; Reviewer: panel 4.6

Single Player:
R A Mans Home is His Castle, by joshua4missions; No Reviewer
R Sir Spart on Trench Shores, Demo, by Algren t l s; No reviewer
R Brotherhood of War (updated 1.3 version), by kahn1969; Reviewer: Panel;
R The Arabian Nights, by Jackrum; no reviewer
R ICE AGE ICE MAZE, by Xylon Draganthus; Reviewer: Panel 3.2
The Jaguar Gold, by Lord Basse; Reviewer: Sarn 4.8, dragonslayermcmx 4.8, Possidon 4.6
R Ottoman Empire and Modern Turkey, by Celebi Megatron; Reviewer: panel 4.4
The Conquest of Kent by Andrew W; Reviewer: Sarn 3.8
Phoenix (Unfinished), by Teotl; Reviewer: panel 4.2
Demon Town, by Devastator; Reviewer: panel 3.8
the TWO KINGS by Genghis, by Pro_Designer; Reviewer: Alekshs 3.0
Britannia Colonia, by Yekkelle; Reviewer: Sarn 3.0
Treasure Predator, by Devastator; Reviewer: Sword_Of_Storm 3.8
Helm's Deep by Magnus, by Lord Magnus; Reviewer: Sarn 2.4
MGC12-An evil "surprise", by Alekshs; Reviewer: Sarn 4.0
MGC2012 - The Siege of the Fort, by Mephiles5; Reviewer: Sarn 2.8

Non-Playable Scenarios:
R Forest, by Dragonslayermcmx; panel 4.0
The Jungle Thinghy, by IsuckatXbows; panel 1.5
R District of Allin, by Algren t l s; panel 3.0

Random Maps:
R Fertile Crescent, Revision 1, by OtmShankIiI; no reviewer

Multiplayer:
R Compilation of Multiplayer Games, by jburnell; No Reviewer
R Persia - Non Random Map, by Lakayaa; No Reviewer
R UDP - Deathly Cliffs - V3.2, by Heroes; No Reviewer
R Battleships, by TheReal_Hunter; No Reviewer
R The Seas of Egressa RP, by Guthan; No Reviewer
R city catastrophe(complete version), by bigboy37731; No Reviewer
R UDP Prison Break, by Alevo; No Reviewer
R Paradise Lands, by sathcooperation; No Reviewer
R SAVE YOUR @$$ (beta2), by rohit021089; No Reviewer

Recorded Games:
DM 1 vs 4 Hardest.mgx, by zebratangozebra; Reviewer: Alekshs 1.5





FILE UPDATES AND OBSELETE REVIEWS

Please edit your review after an update. A designer can ask for the removal of all reviews after an update if he feels that they do not represent the actual version of his submission. Reviews that address issues that are fixed, altered or ameliorated do not serve the visitors of our site. A review has to be a valuable tool for the designer and the downloader.

RECENT UPDATES/ REVIEWS TO EDIT
(In order of date of the update)

10/23/11 Roots to Noah's Arc, by Pancho Villa 347; Reviewer: Mashek
11/25/11 Age of Vampires - Blood Reign in Transsylvania, by Khan Ivayl; Reviewers: Mashek




Please read the REVIEW GUIDELINES

Without trying to enforce the Review Guidelines as something as law, they are still a very important part of the review system here at Age of Kings Heaven, and are used to create consistency between reviewers at the Blacksmith in order to establish fairness and equality for reviews. With the Review Guidelines’ recent update all reviewers need to take into account the new addition of rules when reviewing. However, Angel SpineMan’s primary objective for reviewing in the Old Guidelines still applies today:

“This article will provide a description of how to write quality reviews for Age of Kings Heaven that are scored consistently between reviewers and are helpful to both the file's creator as well as the potential downloader.”

In some cases, a small percentage of reviewers tend to review files according to their own rules, leading to inconsistency between reviews at the Blacksmith, which is neither helpful nor fair to anyone. To have reviews at the Blacksmith that are fair and helpful, reviewers have to follow some rules to score consistently.

If you have any questions about reviewing, please do not hesitate to post in this thread!




Single Player Campaigns and Scenarios


There are many invaluable lessons to learn when becoming a good reviewer, and a few other things besides that will result in a good and fair review. Some things are self-evident when reviewing a file; in general, do not review game styles you do not enjoy and review files according to the date of its release. There are many files back in 2000-2002 that received a score of a high 4, which would not fit the standards of today. You have to take into account the standards of the day, and rate accordingly. In addition, if the scenario is designed for original Age of Kings, review it playing AoK.

Below you will find a general breakdown of each category from a review for your convenience.

PLAYABILITY is about the fun you had while playing a scenario, and here you need to mention what affected your enjoyment in a positive and/or negative way.

BALANCE is about how easy or difficult a scenario was for you. You should mention which difficulty you played on when reviewing, although this is not mandatory. A good approach to reviewing a file would be to start with moderate and later change to standard, to see if the scenario was too easy or too hard or well-balanced overall; before ending off with hard difficulty. However, reviewers will need to take into account that not all files are difficulty-level-dynamic. In general, remember that you are rating the file according to your own skill level and not that of others.

CREATIVITY covers every aspect of a scenario. Remember that a file does not need anything new to achieve a high score.

MAP DESIGN scores compared to a random map which rates 2.0. Anything worse or better than a random map may be rated up or down accordingly. Some tips for rating this category is that you rate what you see during game play, which means no Marco and Polo. The map size and how much of the map was used should not affect the rating.

STORY/INSTRUCTIONS is a little more interesting than some. Probably the most common detail reviewers tend to overlook is that this category covers two aspects of any scenario, story and instructions. Not just one or the other. If the file is lacking in one then you can make note of that in the review and mark down accordingly. However, this does not pertain to multiplayer scenarios, whereby a story is not mandatory. In general, the presence of a functional story (while not necessarily being a good story) with instructions should be midpoint, a 3. From there you should be able to give an accurate overall rating for this category.

Non-Playable Scenarios

For files such as those where playability is void and map design is the only feature of the file (e.g. entries to the Totally-Terrain Contest), the category should therefore be used to take a look at the technical and creative qualities of the map design, while referring to how that design pushes the boundaries of realism in an AOK environment. One particular thing to note here is that just because the file is all about pretty map design, that doesn’t mean it cannot feature any creative features that might breathe life into the design, such as towns brought to life by wandering villagers, people going about their everyday lives, and other unique devices besides. Basically, anything that goes into making the map more alive and as such realistic should be taken into consideration. As the file will likely feature little anything else other than map design, a single overall rating between 1 and 5 will be fine.

Scenarios without Fighting

An exception to the balance category is when the author of a particular file did not intend any fighting, or very little of, to feature in the scenario. From the review guidelines:

One important note about scoring the balance category for scenarios is that where no fighting takes place, such as some puzzle scenarios and some RPG-style scenarios, is that just because the player cannot die in such scenarios, that doesn't mean the scenario isn't balanced. Difficulty can also be present via puzzles or other devices, and the balance of these should be taken into account.

For files such as the Pretty Town Contest entries whereby there is a great degree of walking and nothing else much, reviewers should therefore take into account the author’s intention. If it was intended that you walk around and gaze at the beauty and wonder of a landscape, then you need to rate on that account.

Rating Cut-scene Style Scenarios

Cut-scenes rate like any other scenario, the only difference is that most cut-scenes do not allow any interaction for the player, requiring only that the player sits down and watch as the story unfolds. Cut-scenes are a mixed bag of lollies; some designers appreciate them, others however do not. The purpose of a cut-scene is to tell a story, to continue or conclude a project, like in Ulio with the old man in the forest and the two travellers. In the general sense of the word Playability, we rate the fun we had while watching the cut-scene and how playable it is.

The very definition of Playability denotes many errors, some already obvious. In Tanneur99’s words, the previous Blacksmith administrator and owner of this thread, “playability is a bastard word. It does not exist in the English language and separating the word into play and ability gives an incorrect meaning for the category. Ability to play would be listed under balance, the ability of a player to play a certain difficulty level of a file. It is a common error to believe that cut-scenes are unplayable. Gordon Farrell wrote that you play a cut-scene in the same sense as you play a CD on your CD player. If the CD has scratches and/or is dirty it is less playable to unplayable. A cut-scene is less playable to unplayable when we encounter bugs and/or lag. In closing, rate the fun you had watching the cut-scene and deduct for bugs and lag.”

For rating Balance in cut-scenes, the review guideline gives us this description:

for scenarios with no interactivity, such as cut-scenes, this category should be used to examine the flow and technical merits of the cut-scene: did it run smoothly? Was everything technically put together well

This means that reviewers can now rate down in this category for all those dodgy timing sequences, overlapping music, and anything else that would not necessarily affect one’s enjoyment but the technical aspect of a cut-scene. This also gives balance in cinematic scenarios more depth and meaning, and contributes more to the overall rating of a review than previously attained. Every technical aspect is to be taken into account, and what happens on-screen should generally correspond smoothly with dialogue and the overall transition of the story. Generally speaking, the less the cinematic leaves up to the viewer’s imagination, the higher the quality of the presentation. In saying all that, a cinematic should never feel rushed or sluggish, but proceed from scene to scene as the atmosphere and story suggests.

Demos, Teasers, Unfinished Scenarios

Unfinished files, demos and teasers are common at the Blacksmith and make up a great percentage of submissions. Many designers, like writers, look for feedback on their work: to help get past a certain point in their project where they might be hindered from progressing, or to catch up on any bugs that might be bothering them. Some authors return to the file and provide the Blacksmith with a complete update of the file as a result of the feedback.

When reviewing unfinished files, it’s important not to discriminate because it is an incomplete work. There’s no reason to knock down points just because somebody put Demo or Teaser in the title to get some feedback to know what he/she could improve on in an update. Rate a demo as if it is a finished product. This will achieve the best possible feedback for the author of an unfinished file.

Multiplayer

The Official Review Guidelines is the directive for rating single player scenarios and multiplayer scenarios, with an exception to Balance only. When judging BALANCE in multiplayer scenarios, you rate nothing else but the starting positions of each player, which should be equal for all to achieve the highest rating. For more on this please read post 264 of the previous thread.

Random Map Script


AI-Files

The first question to ask when rating an AI-File is what is the AI intended to do and how well does it perform in that specific area? There are AI-Files developed for many intents and purposes: for scenario design, training, specific maps (e.g. Arabia), death match, tournament, defensive/ aggressive files, water maps or land maps only, etc.

If the AI-file is developed for Age of Kings test it playing Age of Kings only. Rating an AI according to your own experience might be biased unless the AI cheats. Cheating AI-files, as forbidden for tournaments, are meant to play against human players. A good way to test a non-cheating AI is against the standard AI. If its performance compares to the standard one, it is average and the minimum rating should be a 3. In general, rate the AI-file according to its time. Many AI-files were developed to beat another specific one. It would be unfair to knock off points of an AI developed in 2000 because it loses against a more recent one.

Modification Pack Script

A Modification Pack Script (MPS) is mainly an item for the player, which has a limited use for designers; the content will not always suit a designer’s endeavours in scenario design and is very limited to its audience. Keep this in mind when you rate mod pack scripts for USEFULNESS/NOVELTY and QUALITY/INSTRUCTIONS. The main categories are USEFULNESS and QUALITY for the overall rating of a MPS. Use NOVELTY and INSTRUCTIONS to correct the category rating. Still, for a perfect rating the MPS has to excel in all four categories.

Utilities

There is no official guideline for reviewing utilities, but for some ideas you can go here. A utility is a tool for the designer and has hardly any use for the player; keep this in mind when you rate utilities for USEFULNESS/NOVELTY and QUALITY/INSTRUCTIONS. Often you cannot rate the novelty factor because the file is another eye candy map of Lord of the Rings, a Volcano, Waterfall, Trigger Guide, Tutorial or collection of battle sounds. In other words, nothing new. Originally the fifth category was Creativity but this was too close to Novelty, better to have the two rated together if possible. When you feel Novelty does not apply, you can replace it with Creativity. The four categories are of equal importance for the overall rating of a utility.

Recorded Games

The value of a recorded game is highly subjective depending mainly on the purpose for which the submitter uploaded it. A recorded game must have a specific and defined purpose so the viewer can gain knowledge and/or entertainment value from the game. The submitter must specify exactly what to look for, what the point of the upload is.

It is up to the reviewer to check if there was any purpose and how well the recorded game met the intended goals. If it is supposed to be an example of a rushing tactic but no attacks happen until 30 minutes into the game, it is a bad example of the tactic. The rating is not about how well everybody played, if the teams were equally strong, you can mention that but it should not affect the rating.

The questions to answer: What is the purpose of the record? How well does the game show the intended goals? Is it entertaining and/or can the viewer gain knowledge from it?




Review Thread History

Luke Gevaerts started the Review Request Thread 03/30/2002. Tanneur took over 11/30/2002 until 7/11/2009. I (Mashek) have since taken over and updated the thread as best I can (disputable) to feature more relevant information according to today’s guidelines.

[This message has been edited by Dead_End (edited 05-18-2012 @ 07:04 PM).]

AuthorReplies:
Dementor561
Squire
posted 02-12-11 12:59 PM CT (US)     351 / 943       
idk were to put this and i dont wanna make a new thread but
does anyone know how to fix the aok windows 7 glitch i just intalled it on my new computer and am pretty pissed off

Life is bleak
My memes are bleak
Once upon a time
I ate a lime
Basse
Squire
posted 02-12-11 01:05 PM CT (US)     352 / 943       
Depends on what glitch you're talking about, and this most certainly the wrong thread...
Dementor561
Squire
posted 02-12-11 01:15 PM CT (US)     353 / 943       
the one that changes the color and idk were to post this so i put it here

Life is bleak
My memes are bleak
Once upon a time
I ate a lime
Basse
Squire
posted 02-12-11 01:21 PM CT (US)     354 / 943       
Maybe the tavern? Or in General & Strategy Discussion?
Dementor561
Squire
posted 02-12-11 01:22 PM CT (US)     355 / 943       
k

Life is bleak
My memes are bleak
Once upon a time
I ate a lime
Lord Basse
MI6 Scenario-Making Machine
posted 02-12-11 05:28 PM CT (US)     356 / 943       
Now that the ACSC is over, I would appreciate it very much if someone would review My Fair Princess.

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Possidon
Slayer
posted 02-12-11 05:51 PM CT (US)     357 / 943       
Mash
Huskarl
(id: Mashek)
posted 02-12-11 06:50 PM CT (US)     358 / 943       
Me too. As you can see, I'm a slow review writer. It's got me stuffed how some official reviewers here knock one up in less than 30 minutes!
Jatayu
Squire
(id: Sword_of_STORM)
posted 02-12-11 10:31 PM CT (US)     359 / 943       
Mashek, I don't remember what happened to the idea that we could award an overall score to certain scenarios in case some categories didn't apply. For example, I want to review this scenario the bay of beran , but this has no playability, balance, story or instructions and its creativity is limited to whatever you can present in designing the map. Realistically, the scenario should be rated on map design and nothing else.

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Squire
(id: Watson)
posted 02-13-11 00:44 AM CT (US)     360 / 943       
Yes, Mashek, you did say you'd draft a new set of rules specially for the TTCs.


And oh, Jatayu, review The Coast of Darvia while you're at it.
Mash
Huskarl
(id: Mashek)
posted 02-13-11 02:31 AM CT (US)     361 / 943       
Yes, I did say that didn't I?

Jatayu, thanks for bringing that up. I swear I was on my way to getting something up for TTC entries (and those like it) but a hundred and one other things always seem to get in the way with this job. I've just sent sly_guy a mail, and we might have to get a new category up for this, as I really can't see another legit way to get around the review template obstacle. With the new category, we could have simplified review templates (much like those for reviewing utilities and mod packs) with an overall single score system.

In any case, I will soon write up a brief description for rating map design in a TTC entry.

[This message has been edited by Mashek (edited 02-13-2011 @ 02:38 AM).]

Lord Basse
MI6 Scenario-Making Machine
posted 02-13-11 06:09 AM CT (US)     362 / 943       
Already working on it Basse
Me too.

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Possidon
Slayer
posted 02-13-11 08:31 AM CT (US)     363 / 943       
Something else that has been on my mind is this.

What do you put in terms of balance for scenario that are playable but have no fighting, like PTC Entries? TRhey are not like cutscenes where you mark it in terms of timing etc.
Popeychops
"Cool" Huskarl
posted 02-13-11 12:28 PM CT (US)     364 / 943       
Poss, you should know this, you're an OR now :P

You rate it according to the "flow" of the game.

Member of BlackForest Studios
Co-creator of Silent Evil (4.6) Voted Best Multiplayer Scenario of 2009 (Most Fave'd Multiplayer Scenario)
and The Seas of Egressa (4.8) Voted Best Multiplayer Scenario of 2010
"Popey just hates everywhere." - Chocolate Jesus, on my fear of Romanian organ-traffickers
"Hooray for Dear Leader-Comrade-Generalissimo-Presidente-Lord Protector Popey!" - Lord Sipia, on my benevolent, iron-fisted rule
"You're not Popeychops; you don't get to physics." - Moff, in response to a clumsy muon simile
Possidon
Slayer
posted 02-13-11 02:27 PM CT (US)     365 / 943       
Popeychops
"Cool" Huskarl
posted 02-13-11 03:07 PM CT (US)     366 / 943       
I assume it would be thematic flow.
"Does the desert fit in well, besides it being pretty?"

If you aren't sure, just fill it in with the average of all other categories to ensure your overall is fair, and state that that field doesn't apply and that you are balancing the overall score.

Member of BlackForest Studios
Co-creator of Silent Evil (4.6) Voted Best Multiplayer Scenario of 2009 (Most Fave'd Multiplayer Scenario)
and The Seas of Egressa (4.8) Voted Best Multiplayer Scenario of 2010
"Popey just hates everywhere." - Chocolate Jesus, on my fear of Romanian organ-traffickers
"Hooray for Dear Leader-Comrade-Generalissimo-Presidente-Lord Protector Popey!" - Lord Sipia, on my benevolent, iron-fisted rule
"You're not Popeychops; you don't get to physics." - Moff, in response to a clumsy muon simile

[This message has been edited by Popeychops (edited 02-13-2011 @ 03:10 PM).]

Possidon
Slayer
posted 02-13-11 04:02 PM CT (US)     367 / 943       
Mash
Huskarl
(id: Mashek)
posted 02-13-11 09:42 PM CT (US)     368 / 943       
@Possidon,

Before the review guidelines were "revamped", there was a description for such files. Someone got it confused with the description that pertains only to cinematic files and removed the former.

Basically, there's no reason to deduct from BALANCE just because the player was not faced with the challenge to survive. Instead, you need to take into account the author's intention. This makes it a little more flexible than a more complex description, and all you need to do is look at the file as a whole. If it was intended that you walk around (such as in a PTC entry) and gaze at the beauty and wonder of a landscape, then you need to rate on that account. If however the author, against all the odds, manages to fail even in that quarter and goes against his own intention, you may mark the file down in that regard.
Leif Ericson
Seraph Emeritus
posted 02-14-11 02:47 AM CT (US)     369 / 943       
I update my scenario CF2 again fixing some minor things, so if Leif Ericsson hasnt already started playing, then please play the latest one.
I've been absolutely swamped with homework lately. I should be able to play it Wednesday.

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RladalFatih
Squire
posted 02-15-11 03:07 PM CT (US)     370 / 943       
It is just to have a review for my first scenario, "1453 - The Last Siege of Constantinople":
[url=http://aok.heavengames.com/blacksmith/showfile.php?fileid=10644][/url].

I am a beginner in scenario design, so I want some advice about my work to improve future projects. Thanks in advance.

"Freedom is not given, it is taken." - Kropotkin

If you like historical scenarios, look at my 1453-The Last Siege of Constantinople in the Blacksmith.
Popeychops
"Cool" Huskarl
posted 02-16-11 04:02 PM CT (US)     371 / 943       
Rladal, you've got yourself a review.
Its very very hard. You'll want to allow the player to build castles and train camels, at least. You might want to lower the tower HP to 15000 as well, and remove the accursed tower at the bottom corner which kills all the player's artillery.

Member of BlackForest Studios
Co-creator of Silent Evil (4.6) Voted Best Multiplayer Scenario of 2009 (Most Fave'd Multiplayer Scenario)
and The Seas of Egressa (4.8) Voted Best Multiplayer Scenario of 2010
"Popey just hates everywhere." - Chocolate Jesus, on my fear of Romanian organ-traffickers
"Hooray for Dear Leader-Comrade-Generalissimo-Presidente-Lord Protector Popey!" - Lord Sipia, on my benevolent, iron-fisted rule
"You're not Popeychops; you don't get to physics." - Moff, in response to a clumsy muon simile
Possidon
Slayer
posted 02-16-11 05:31 PM CT (US)     372 / 943       
My review for My Fair princess is coming along well. Should be finished in a few days.

EDIT:
I have finished my review for My Fair Princess giving it a 4.8 Very good Cinematic Basse.

[This message has been edited by Possidon (edited 02-17-2011 @ 04:13 PM).]

Jatayu
Squire
(id: Sword_of_STORM)
posted 02-21-11 11:55 AM CT (US)     373 / 943       
Mashek,

I personally believe that official reviewers should be allowed to give overall ratings if they want to and to hell with the categories. How are we supposed to rate the 'flow' of a scenario like TTC- the Bay of Beran. Please!! be serious

If there is a programming problem in giving an overall score, then the reviewer should simply choose the category scores in such a way that it amounts to the overall, and state so in the review. For ex., if one wants to give a rating of 3.6, they can give 3,3,3,4,4 .

Even after the review guidelines revamping , Aokh is probably still the strictest site when it comes to reviewing. I'm not talking about the absurdly lame standards of other heavens ( which you can see an example here ), but even compared with Amazon.com and IMDB.

The review guidelines need revisiting once more, particularly with regard to cutscenes, scenarios like TTC, official reviewers and overall scores.

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Mash
Huskarl
(id: Mashek)
posted 02-21-11 09:34 PM CT (US)     374 / 943       
Certainly, mate. And what do you think I've been trying to push for all this time? I've asked sly to give files like the TTC a new category, where we can have an overall single rating. He in turn has contacted zen, from whom I'm still waiting for a reply on another matter a fortnight ago. What's wrong with rating cut-scenes? And who said anything about rating the "flow" for TTC entries? That description of flow pertains only to cut-scenes; I believe sly wrote it in such a way that people think its for other files as well. It's not. But it's an easy fix, and should really begin reading as "For cut-scenes..." and so forth.

[This message has been edited by Mashek (edited 02-22-2011 @ 07:18 PM).]

Sebastien
Dark Samurai
posted 02-21-11 09:46 PM CT (US)     375 / 943       
I request that mods get rated differently.

I found it stupid that a simple copy and paste character can receive a 5 the same as a full mod conversion such as Age of Chivalry.

There needs to be some distinguisment of quality and not let the really good mod packs get pushed down by single units.

Perhaps two seperate categories.

Modded Units
Mod Addon Packs

(or something like that).

Modpacks would include a number of units or a varied number of changes, where single units would literally be mods that change one to two units (or buildings).

Edit: oh and the fact Sly has to contact Zen about it for permission is friggin retarded. An notification, fine...but permission, pointless.

[This message has been edited by Tetsuo Shima (edited 02-21-2011 @ 09:50 PM).]

Sarn
Squire
posted 02-22-11 00:49 AM CT (US)     376 / 943       
I agree about the modpack rating system. Going strictly on the current ratings, a single decently made unit could rate higher than a total conversion like AoC with a few minor changes still needing to be done. That just doesn't sit well with me.

Either
A) we split into separate categories (Modpacks and modded units, maybe even add conversion packs, with the number of these that are appearing),
B) we change the review guidelines (maybe add a "scope of change" rating or something like that), or
C) Leave it the way it is and modify the guidelines to instruct the reviewer to include the aspects of size in one of the other categories like Usefulness (as a full conversion will likely be more useful than a single).

Personally, I think that option A is the best choice, as it allows us to not only fairly compare new uploads, but also doesn't create an inequality between the new mods and the older ones. Regardless, the guidelines should be changed.

It's not fair that Agamemmnon's simple fire modpack should be rated higher than AoC, when almost any modder could replicate that mod. The times are changing and the review guidelines need to change with them.

"The Dreaming God thinks that Carol should treat his impotence with viagra so that he will be more enthusiastic about the game." - Ash
Mash
Huskarl
(id: Mashek)
posted 02-22-11 07:17 PM CT (US)     377 / 943       
@Sarn and Seb,

I also find it stupid that people would even compare modded units with total conversions. It would be like comparing Blood of the Bear with Ulio (both 5.0 campaigns); you simply can't compare the two. Indeed, the individual ratings we see are merely indicators of each designs quality. It would be unfair to look at it above that.

However, understanding not everyone shares my POV, wouldn't it really be on issue of the reviewer? Perhaps there's a few reviewers rating individual units too highly, and while there is nothing wrong with that, perhaps these units are in fact "copy and paste", duplications from AoK, and could be rated a little more harshly in areas such as USEFULNESS and/or QUALITY?

I know why you've suddenly posted your concern, and I agree with some of the "copy and paste" units lately (*cough* Middle Eastern 2-handed swordsman). However, shouldn't that be up to the reviewer to rate a little more fairly? Maybe you could point out a few of the units that seem to be rated unfairly for the thread reviewers to look at, or do a few reviews yourself?

Your ideas are quite good, but I'm not sure the Blacksmith needs that right now (that is, a trillion new categories). People will want to start distinguishing between every other genre. You could see how that could lead to a number of issues.

As for sly, he doesn't need permission; I believe only zen can make the changes we require. Now that is retarded. A kind of bottleneck forms when each Heaven begins requesting changes from him, and somehow you find yourself waiting ten years for something to happen, if the change you requested in the first place is not forgotten by then.

[This message has been edited by Mashek (edited 02-22-2011 @ 07:21 PM).]

Lord Basse
MI6 Scenario-Making Machine
posted 02-22-11 07:40 PM CT (US)     378 / 943       
On an unrelated topic, how is that promised prize review coming along Mashek?

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Sebastien
Dark Samurai
posted 02-22-11 08:27 PM CT (US)     379 / 943       
As for sly, he doesn't need permission; I believe only zen can make the changes we require. Now that is retarded. A kind of bottleneck forms when each Heaven begins requesting changes from him, and somehow you find yourself waiting ten years for something to happen, if the change you requested in the first place is not forgotten by then.
Man that is retarded. Whats the point in having seraph Zen(then)? Get it.

I'm pretty sure Sly's not gonna go on a blacksmith rampage.

I'm slowly losing my faith.

Anyway, your right Mashek. I might do a bit of reviewing to justify not giving them a seperate category

[This message has been edited by Tetsuo Shima (edited 02-22-2011 @ 09:17 PM).]

Sarn
Squire
posted 02-22-11 09:08 PM CT (US)     380 / 943       
I'll have to take that into consideration in my future reviews as well.

"The Dreaming God thinks that Carol should treat his impotence with viagra so that he will be more enthusiastic about the game." - Ash
Possidon
Slayer
posted 03-08-11 10:59 AM CT (US)     381 / 943       
Now that we finally have a new category for non-playable scenarios may I request a review for my TTC Entry the Kingdom of Asgarnia.
Popeychops
"Cool" Huskarl
posted 03-08-11 03:10 PM CT (US)     382 / 943       
Hey all, just to let you know I've not gone AWOL completely. I'll try and get a few reviews up over the next few weeks (especially in the easter holidays), but I've got a horrific schedule with schoolwork, meaning I have to sacrifice either my hobbies or sleep.
Unfortunately, you guys get cut
I'll do my best at knocking down the list of files awaiting review! Mashek, maybe you might want to make a little list of "priority" scenarios you think have waited longest and/or are most deserving. That would make my job of picking what I review (usually dice these days) easier.
Keep up the good work, designers and reviewers!

Member of BlackForest Studios
Co-creator of Silent Evil (4.6) Voted Best Multiplayer Scenario of 2009 (Most Fave'd Multiplayer Scenario)
and The Seas of Egressa (4.8) Voted Best Multiplayer Scenario of 2010
"Popey just hates everywhere." - Chocolate Jesus, on my fear of Romanian organ-traffickers
"Hooray for Dear Leader-Comrade-Generalissimo-Presidente-Lord Protector Popey!" - Lord Sipia, on my benevolent, iron-fisted rule
"You're not Popeychops; you don't get to physics." - Moff, in response to a clumsy muon simile
Possidon
Slayer
posted 03-08-11 04:20 PM CT (US)     383 / 943       
Is there any particular way of Reviewing for the new category like for Mod Packs they have Usefulness/Quality etc?
Mash
Huskarl
(id: Mashek)
posted 03-08-11 05:45 PM CT (US)     384 / 943       
@Popeychops,

I'll see what I can do, but many of them have been sitting there for a long, long time, as far as I know.

@Possidon,

Good idea. Actually, I wrote this a few weeks ago. What do you think? It's just a rough draft, but please feel free to add things/ change it around if need be.

For files such as those where playability is void and map design is the only feature of the file (e.g. entries to the Totally-Terrain Contest), the category should therefore be used to take a look at the technical and creative qualities of the map design, while referring to how that design blends eye candy with terrain mixing. One particular thing to note here is that just because the file is all about pretty map design, that doesn't mean it cannot feature any creative features that might breathe life into the design, such as towns brought to life by wandering villagers, people going about their everyday lives, and other unique devices besides. This however calls for taking into consideration the author's intention, as well as keeping an eye out for any of the map's unique features that might set it apart from other designs of its type. As the file will likely feature little anything else other than map design, a single overall rating between 1 and 5 will be fine.
Possidon
Slayer
posted 03-08-11 05:50 PM CT (US)     385 / 943       
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