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Dynasty_IV
Squire
posted 07-22-14 10:18 PM CT (US)         
Unit/Building Concepts


Recently I've noticed a lot of new units going up on the blacksmith both copy/paste and modeled and thought it would be nice to have an open forum for people to put cool unit concepts and give ideas for units they would like to see. I can see there are a lot of projects currently in the works and wouldn't mind sharing any concepts or completed graphics I come up with.

I invite anyone else to post their own ideas for units as well as any they've completed and are willing to share.

Personally I'm no good at 3d modeling and my units are all copy/paste for the most part but either are welcome.







[This message has been edited by Dynasty_IV (edited 09-08-2015 @ 01:36 PM).]

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Dynasty_IV
Squire
posted 07-22-14 10:47 PM CT (US)     1 / 985       
Japanese:
Naginata

Mounted Samurai


Chinese:
Ming Pikeman (on this one I was curios if someone was able to run a program to change the white coat to a black one, similar to the way the African villagers were done)


Middle Eastern:
ME Infantry -- Dave3377's Eastern Swordsman with huskarl helmet (I think the shield will end up being different to so it'll differ from dave's a little; maybe one could be the upgraded unit)

ME Royal Guard -- ???'s Golden Cataphract with Dave3377's Eastern Swordsman's shield & huskarl helmet

ME Light Cavalry -- Derfel Cadarn/Kor's 14th centry knight with Dave3377's Eastern Swordsman's sword and helmet


Viking:
Shield Maiden -- Shield taken from ToME beta mod


Mongol:
Keshik -- This will have to be redone but this is the concept


European:
Aquebusier


Asian:
Archer

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Seonid
Squire
posted 07-22-14 11:42 PM CT (US)     2 / 985       
All of these look amazing, Dynasty!


I'll post some of the concept art for the units I'm working on. If you want to use any of it, you're more than welcome (but I have to finish it first )

Armsman Lancer (original graphics by Jorgito, made for Age of Chivalry):



Levy Spearmen (uses Dave3377's Barbarian spearman as a base, swaps out shields with various units):









Levy Militia (uses foojer's edited man-at-arms from the 5th century mod as a base, swaps out shields with other units):







These ones have already been shared on my other thread, but I might as well reproduce them here.

Armsman (base unit from Jorgito's HD mod):




Guardian of the Gate (base unit from Jorgito's HD mod):




Lord of the Land (base unit from Jorgito's HD mod):




It should be noted that none of these are, in fact, completed yet. They are going to be my next project (after the MGC and getting a public beta out - which should be right after the MGC is over.)

[This message has been edited by Seonid (edited 07-22-2014 @ 11:46 PM).]

Dead_End
Cavalier
posted 07-22-14 11:43 PM CT (US)     3 / 985       
It's great that you're sharing these concepts. But I would highly appreciate it if you could add a line for each unit about it's origins. I don't want any further submissions to the Blacksmith where someone simply changed a few dozen pixels of another unit and claims it as his own without crediting the original author.
Seonid
Squire
posted 07-22-14 11:46 PM CT (US)     4 / 985       
Consider me in compliance!
enkeli
Banned
posted 07-23-14 01:17 AM CT (US)     5 / 985       
Imperial Soldier.

[This message has been edited by Enkeli (edited 07-23-2014 @ 01:23 AM).]

Mahazona
Squire
posted 07-23-14 03:16 AM CT (US)     6 / 985       
Dynasty great concepts also if you check my recent mod i have done a black pikeman unit.
Enkeli nice civi 3 unit the colors look very nice.

On topic i always fancied the idea of having different looking unit sets for each type of civi using the same units as base units so this topic will be an ideal place to get ideas for units.
Eg. Default pikeman(europe) pikeman with round shield (Germans) pikeman with knight shield(Slaves) etc
Seonid
Squire
posted 07-23-14 12:16 PM CT (US)     7 / 985       
Hey, DynastyIV, did you ever finish your German buildset Town Center?
Dynasty_IV
Squire
posted 07-23-14 02:58 PM CT (US)     8 / 985       
-Mahazona
Oh yeah I just saw it. It looks pretty cool would you happen to have the slps of just the man without the shield I was interesting in trying to turn him into like a light Chinese infantry unit (similar to the AoE3 qing pikeman if you've seen it)

-Seonid
I'm pretty sure I didn't. When I get a chance here though ill put it up here and eventually upload it with the mod on te blacksmith. If you wanna do one it's really just going to be the Teuton wonder roof on a AoC TC.

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Mahazona
Squire
posted 07-23-14 11:07 PM CT (US)     9 / 985       
I dont have a version without the shield but i will make one for you during the weekend.
Shyam prasad
Squire
posted 07-24-14 01:28 AM CT (US)     10 / 985       
Can someone make something like this please?

Mounted King

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Possidon
Slayer
posted 07-24-14 05:22 AM CT (US)     11 / 985       


This is something I started for the unfinished Age of |Sherwood Mod. It's unfinished and I won't ever get round to finishing it myself. All of the frames are in the Age of Sherwood Graphics Pack so if any of you want to finish it then download that and go ahead.
Mahazona
Squire
posted 07-24-14 09:13 AM CT (US)     12 / 985       
^ I did that and gave it to someone but cant remember who.
John the Late
Knight
posted 07-24-14 02:12 PM CT (US)     13 / 985       
It is awesome how well you guys can design units!

Dynasty, are some of these units finished?
Dynasty_IV
Squire
posted 07-24-14 03:34 PM CT (US)     14 / 985       
That's mounted king looks like a pretty cool idea ill definitely do that one if someone hasn't already.

Yeah of few of those gif ones are the aquerbusier and yumi archer but that's it. Ive been crazy busy lately but ill eventually get started back up on them. The little mock ups only take like 20 minutes so Ill do one every once in a while. I think gonna try to replace all the civ 3 units I have in the age of civ mod cause a few of them look a little less detailed next to the AoC ones.

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Possidon
Slayer
posted 07-24-14 04:37 PM CT (US)     15 / 985       
Dynasty_IV
Squire
posted 07-24-14 08:29 PM CT (US)     16 / 985       
I don't know if Admiral_Loki will see but for some reason I couldn't post on his unit in the blacksmith and i was wondering if he would recolor the hair of this Shield Maiden unit to blonde. I think it would be a lot cooler that way and don't know what method they use to do those color changes like that.

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Mahazona
Squire
posted 07-24-14 09:15 PM CT (US)     17 / 985       
it wont be easy because when you select the black areas some parts of the dress also gets selected and its pretty hard to figrout where to reclolor sometimes.I will try to do this as well since i have more time in the weekend and have a working PC now.
Possidon the unit was in my old PC which is down at the moment and i cant remember to whom i gave the finished up parts.it was not a great unit but can be of use if i remember correctly.

Anyone have concepts for skirmisher units for asians and arabs?seems its the least modded unit so far.

Also for different looking king's how should they look like?I always felt the kings should also have different skins just like the monks.

[This message has been edited by Mahazona (edited 07-24-2014 @ 09:38 PM).]

Seonid
Squire
posted 07-24-14 10:07 PM CT (US)     18 / 985       
You could do it pixel by pixel, but that would be pretty painstaking work.
MrMew
Huskarl
posted 07-25-14 05:55 AM CT (US)     19 / 985       
Has anyone made a black/brown robed magician that has the ability to fire fireballs, a bit like the demons in 'The Dark Legions' if you've heard of it (I'll post a screenshot of one). Also is there anything like a shaman or short stonewall lying around the blacksmith?

Dark legions- http://www.mascot.hu/home.html

Time of Tea
Still in the Dark Age
Don't be a melodramatic clown. ~Mr Wednesday

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Possidon
Slayer
posted 07-25-14 12:33 PM CT (US)     20 / 985       
Mahazona - I agree. What I designed at least was poor. It was my first ever unit and very rushed
DJeronimo
Banned
posted 07-25-14 01:52 PM CT (US)     21 / 985       
i like all the concepts very much and i am glad the site is still alive!!!
John the Late
Knight
posted 07-25-14 03:23 PM CT (US)     22 / 985       
Seonid, are any of your Levy units finished? I'm desperately in need of exactly such units.
Dynasty_IV
Squire
posted 07-25-14 04:12 PM CT (US)     23 / 985       
Yeah I get that. Its cool if it doesn't work.

I'm gonna looks at skirmishers too now that you mention it there's probably some cool possibilities there. And for the king I was thinking something with the paladin's armor because it already looks pretty fancy and then the king's head.

Here's a little archer I though would be cool. I was thinking maybe it would work for middle eastern

Middle Eastern Archer -- huskarl head/no quiver


ps What am I doing wrong converting the colors to give me that screwed up look on the front arm there?

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Seonid
Squire
posted 07-25-14 07:28 PM CT (US)     24 / 985       
Not yet. Most of them aren't even really started. I just posted a quick proof-of-concept. Tell me which ones you need, though, and I can get on them. It should only take a day or two. Shield replacements are easy.
John the Late
Knight
posted 07-25-14 09:03 PM CT (US)     25 / 985       
No need to do them for me if you don't need them yourself, I don't want to make you do additional work.

If you do want to make some units nevertheless, the most useful ones for me would be the first two spearmen and the arab levy swordsman.
Seonid
Squire
posted 07-25-14 10:54 PM CT (US)     26 / 985       
Everything I've posted so far will be showing up in my mod, so no worries that I'd be making units I don't need. I'll put together the first two spearmen, then.
MrMew
Huskarl
posted 07-26-14 03:05 AM CT (US)     27 / 985       
Anything a bit like these around:

The black units are demons while the brown units are priests.

Time of Tea
Still in the Dark Age
Don't be a melodramatic clown. ~Mr Wednesday
Mahazona
Squire
posted 07-26-14 03:38 AM CT (US)     28 / 985       
only thing i have seen that even closely resemble this is a unit from swgb but it has no attack.its int he pack i uploaded if you want to see it.
There was some mod with chinese sorcerer perhaps you can check that out.

My concept for the orthodox priest.scraped the idea due to 2 main reasons.Too hard to add the player colors wanted to give him a player color belt ans shoulder pads.I want to remove the scroll and the other thing in the hands but standing part makes it impossible to do.

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El Cid II
Squire
posted 08-01-14 01:00 PM CT (US)     29 / 985       
I'm making a custom slinger for old civs like Aztecs,Mayans, Byzantines and the like. But it'll be completely different as it is hand-drawn ( I have drawn the slinger on a blank sheet of paper and scanned it, now I'm coloring the unit in Adobe PS and making the starting frames out of it). It'll have a leather armour piece covering the torso, a bag slung over the side of its shoulders full of stones, and wearing bracers and wielding a sling typical to the one in AoE. Any recommendations on improving the unit are welcome.
-El Cid II
DJeronimo
Banned
posted 08-01-14 06:20 PM CT (US)     30 / 985       
mahazona, i like the unit how can i get it?
Vardamir
Huskarl
posted 08-01-14 07:40 PM CT (US)     31 / 985       
MrMew, Achesun's Friar is probably the closest to what you are looking for.
Mahazona
Squire
posted 08-01-14 08:55 PM CT (US)     32 / 985       
Did not complete that just a preview.
DerWerwolf
Squire
posted 08-01-14 11:53 PM CT (US)     33 / 985       
About hooded units, I have this one:





As far as I can remember, It came in the Battles of Middle Earth mod. I'm not sure 'cus I have my gamedata file full of random slps taken from here and there :P

I think it could be useful for the purpose of a "dark wizard", although it needs some recolour.
Mahazona
Squire
posted 08-02-14 00:46 AM CT (US)     34 / 985       
That unit looks really funny what is the last Gif suppose to be doing, levitate?
I have drawn the slinger on a blank sheet of paper and scanned it, now I'm coloring the unit in Adobe PS and making the starting frames out of it
how are you going to do this? draw every frame by hand?do you have a tool or something that can do this?and a preview would be nice so people can comment rather than a description.

Dynasty_IV i really like the archer unit it can be a good replacement for the archers of the eyes unit.i always found it funny that a archer is armed with a crossbow.

[This message has been edited by Mahazona (edited 08-02-2014 @ 00:49 AM).]

Seonid
Squire
posted 08-02-14 01:17 AM CT (US)     35 / 985       
Ooh...that's a good-looking archer, DynastyIV. And John, I'm still working on the units, it's just taking more time than I thought it would.
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